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Old 09-09-2008, 01:36 AM   #71 (permalink)
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They're usually well informed enough before hand to know what they're getting into.

However, that's the one risk. There's always a chance that might happen, and that's why you might be able to make the argument "Cops in England should have guns.". An argument I'd be glad to hear, maybe even inclined to agree with in some areas, but this is about general population.

And even so, the reason a lot of criminals DON'T have guns is because they know the cops don't. If they thought they'd run into a situation where cops would show up with firearms, they might have them, but that's not usually the case.
And the same could be said about the cops. If they knew criminals weren't armed, they probably wouldn't carry guns either.
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:37 AM   #72 (permalink)
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They don't, here anyway.
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:39 AM   #73 (permalink)
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They don't, here anyway.
Which brings us back to my last point that we should get over the fact that we have guns as there doesn't seem to be any realistic plan to remove them from the US society and do something to prevent unlawful use of them, which reforms are being done on a daily basis.
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Old 09-09-2008, 02:00 AM   #74 (permalink)
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Just a little political message from one man and his father with their home video camera.

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Thanks everyone for your posts, your passions and convictions.

Democracy, freedom, war and all the baggage that ocmes with it are complicated issues.

I wish everyone would search out the facts and not listen to the propoganda on both sides of the isle to find the truth.

In the course of history, we have set many nations free, and it has always carried with it a price.

I support McCain simply because he loves this country and puts it first.
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One final comment. Some have suggested that the McCain Campaign paid for this ad. Nothing could be further from the truth.

McCain would never use soldiers for political gain. He has honored them, but he will not use them.

Unlike the Obama who has used Tammy Duckworth to score political points. McCain has such reverance and respect for our military men and women, he would never use them as political posters.

Nuff said.
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Old 09-09-2008, 02:03 AM   #75 (permalink)
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Did the Republican party honour them when they used the inappropriate and disgraceful 9/11 "tribute" video at the national convention, needlessly digging up old pain, memories and feelings?

Nah, couldn't have been for political gain. Just like the Republican party didn't use 9/11 itself for political gain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfjpcOrD3ls

Totally appropriate and without intent to gain political standing.

Then again, what do we come to expect from someone who supports Sarah Palin?

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There we go the topic is back on, stay off the gun topic or make a new topic. It is a small part of her, but 75% of this topic (and not even that large of a thing out of all the bull shit she brings to the table because I believe McCain also supports it).
I love how that person went to him and suggest McCain couldn't do something like that, look at who he elected for his VP, he never would have taken Palin had Obama taken Hillary, or if he was winning by a huge margin. McCain is just as prone to using politics in any case and any where to win.
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Old 09-09-2008, 02:18 AM   #77 (permalink)
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You mean this video, to which Keith Olbermann, one of the most prominent liberal pundits in the media, clearly overreacted?

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I won't be the first to counter his accusation towards the Republican party, and I won't be the last. Had a 9/11 video been played at the Democratic National Convention, he would have been spewing words like "patriotism" and "honor" and praising the people who made the video and what it stood for.

Then again, it is just an assumption I'm making when I bring up Olbermann's reaction. Although I am assuming it because you may as well have quoted him word for word in your post.

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There we go the topic is back on, stay off the gun topic or make a new topic. It is a small part of her, but 75% of this topic (and not even that large of a thing out of all the bull shit she brings to the table because I believe McCain also supports it).
I love how that person went to him and suggest McCain couldn't do something like that, look at who he elected for his VP, he never would have taken Palin had Obama taken Hillary, or if he was winning by a huge margin. McCain is just as prone to using politics in any case and any where to win.
The political 'head-fake' here was not the fact that he chose a woman for the female vote. He chose a Republican, which countered one of the largest fears of his campaign, he's far too moderate to have gotten the votes he needed from his party.
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For a while there I thought the topic said Palin: After the excrement clears.

And although I'm a citizen of the United States, and this outcome will obviously affect Mexico, I see these political banters as childs play.

I always thought a good strong dictator was the way to go, but too much power is always so tempting to hold on forever.
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You mean this video, to which Keith Olbermann, one of the most prominent liberal pundits in the media, clearly overreacted?

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I won't be the first to counter his accusation towards the Republican party, and I won't be the last. Had a 9/11 video been played at the Democratic National Convention, he would have been spewing words like "patriotism" and "honor" and praising the people who made the video and what it stood for.

Then again, it is just an assumption I'm making when I bring up Olbermann's reaction. Although I am assuming it because you may as well have quoted him word for word in your post.
I'm not here to suggest Olbermann is unbiased, I've never really been fond of the man personally, but that doesn't change him from being absolutely right in what he said there, does it? It might subtract credibility in YOUR eyes, but his comments where accurate.

To say that tribute was not inappropriate, ill-timed and distasteful is incorrect. If that wasn't McCain's party using it to political gain, I don't know what is.
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Old 09-09-2008, 02:27 AM   #80 (permalink)
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I agree with the 2nd Amendment, but why would I vote for the party that would end up putting me in a situation that I'd use it?

I'm not a violent person at all, but it's the "republican party" that I am protecting myself from.
It's people like Palin that I fear, because it's that kind of mentality that brings our genocides.
You are all far too young to have lived through Hitler's regime. None of us know how he came to power.
My Grandmother, on the otherhand, did.
She knows, first hand, how the politics were manipulated, how the people were brain-washed, etc.

This is the same god damn thing.

Not saying that it's to wipe out the Jews. But it's the same god damn process that the Nazi's used to take full control.
And it's happening again. It started with Bush. Open up loop-holes, give more and more power to one branch, manipulate the media to give the coverage that you want. And all the while keep the people just bearly placid enough that they don't start a full-out riot, but are angry.
Then, through media manipulation, simply manipulate that anger and get the people to do what you want.




But lets bring this back on topic.
Palin.
Not McCain, not Obama, but Palin.
Now that the dust has settled, your thoughts on her?





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