Old 11-30-2008, 04:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Do you have any idea of what a graphic engine is? Sprites aren't part of the graphic engine, they just are... sprites. and I highly doubt they BOUGHT them, since they aren't exactly for sale. Sprites from Ragnarok Online, Sword of Mana, MapleStory icons were ripped, aka stolen. Your "living proof" link only proves my point, since the chinese are counterfeiting masters.

Yes, the game is licensed to IGG for the North American market, that means IGG is also responsible. Gravity US, Nexon US or Square-Enix US could very well sue (although I doubt they'd bother for such a pos "game").



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(Ragnarok Online mage)

You are actually contradicting yourself, check the RO and darkages sprites, they are similar, but that doesn’t mean that they are stolen.
About the selling graphic engines, those CAN be sold to others companies, along with the sprites.


“Your "living proof" link only proves my point, since the Chinese are counterfeiting masters.”

That’s just an opinion, and if what you are saying is true and the game has stolen the graphics, it’s been over a year, do you seriously think anything can survive that long without being sued?


“Ragnarok Online has been one of the best mmorpgs around, with tons of actual fans etc, I really hate to see it being bastardized by another cheap company trying to ripoff the game...”

You should post some kind of evidence that hasn’t been proved wrong before flaming.
It seems that you just aren’t reading what I am posting, and just are flaming because you are bored.

Read this again:
“If you still don’t believe that there is nothing illegal going on after reading all the proof, think about Gravity and all the other companies, do you seriously think that nobody from all these companies have realized that they are stealing from them when the game has been announced for over a month? (And all the letters from the fire boys)
Do you seriously think that they wouldn’t do anything to stop them?
Trust me, if they would be doing anything illegal they would already sued IGG. They aren’t stupid.”
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Old 11-30-2008, 05:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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they are similar, but that doesn’t mean that they are stolen.



That is stolen, and there are more graphics that they have stolen, and then added a few minor changes to, or no changes at all.

Here, let me help you.

-They removed the orange marking on the bottom of the robe.
-They recolored the upper part of his robe brown.
-They added a brown hood.
-They removed his glove.
-The head may be the only thing on that sprite that is original, but I wouldn't be surprised if they just edited a normal RO head.
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Old 11-30-2008, 05:49 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I'll shit brix literally if this game turns out to be pretty good. Im gonna try it but i don't think I'll really like it. Never did care much for RO
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Old 11-30-2008, 05:56 PM   #14 (permalink)
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You sepak about proof , why havent you shown us a ink to the graphic engines both games use ? Honestly your so hypacritical , you complain about others contradciting themselves , HAH.

The game RIPS the graphics , if they dont have a credit some where for gravity , they RIPPED , STOLE , and didnt even leave a credit for it , thats just sad.
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Old 11-30-2008, 06:01 PM   #15 (permalink)
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for me both game suck . stealing or not they suck >.< nothing to say how bad RO was beside i likedd the variety of monsters
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Old 11-30-2008, 06:08 PM   #16 (permalink)
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for me both game suck . stealing or not they suck >.< nothing to say how bad RO was beside i likedd the variety of monsters
dude, you came in just to start a flame war? get a freaking life.
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Old 11-30-2008, 06:16 PM   #17 (permalink)
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You are actually contradicting yourself, check the RO and darkages sprites, they are similar, but that doesn’t mean that they are stolen.
About the selling graphic engines, those CAN be sold to others companies, along with the sprites.


“Your "living proof" link only proves my point, since the Chinese are counterfeiting masters.”

That’s just an opinion, and if what you are saying is true and the game has stolen the graphics, it’s been over a year, do you seriously think anything can survive that long without being sued?


“Ragnarok Online has been one of the best mmorpgs around, with tons of actual fans etc, I really hate to see it being bastardized by another cheap company trying to ripoff the game...”

You should post some kind of evidence that hasn’t been proved wrong before flaming.
It seems that you just aren’t reading what I am posting, and just are flaming because you are bored.

Read this again:
“If you still don’t believe that there is nothing illegal going on after reading all the proof, think about Gravity and all the other companies, do you seriously think that nobody from all these companies have realized that they are stealing from them when the game has been announced for over a month? (And all the letters from the fire boys)
Do you seriously think that they wouldn’t do anything to stop them?
Trust me, if they would be doing anything illegal they would already sued IGG. They aren’t stupid.”
It's been discussed over and over. Check the other thread (IGG Announces Its New MMORPG: Aurora Blade).

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Wow, they literally ripped off Ragnarok Online's sprites (Sniper and Knight, from the header). Well it's IGG, so no wonder.

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(RO's sprites)



(Ragnarok Online sprite)

Yay, Priestess fighting an Argiope...


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Yeah I think so too...



Pretty sure I've seen those trees somewhere else. Probably in Sword of Mana or Seiken Densetsu 3.

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Same tree, different color.
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I never said it was going to suck, I'll give it a whirl.

The point is, why is a COMPANY like IGG ripping sprites? And yes, they are RIPPING, no inspiration.

There are some minor edits to the sprite, but in many MANY areas you can see IDENTICAL pixel placement (Mid region including the gloves, shoulder pads, chest, AND most of these colors are IDENTICAL to the RO's priest)

I used to be a Pixel Artist, which pixels are placed by hand to form sprites, images, etc, there is NO way to accidentally make these identical.

They merely edited existing RO sprites, recolors etc.

As for the trees, you'd have to blind to say its not ripped, they just modified the colors, that's all their doing here, is modifying them.
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a side-by-side comparison



and I changed the opacity of the rip-off one and overlayed it on top of the orignal RO female priest sprite, a perfect match lul.

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I'm getting pissed off with this. We should make a petition.

Even more screenshots are being posted and it's just more stuff being ripped off of RO... and I love RO. ):

They're making it look like complete shit.
So, we already know that the characters are ripped...


But they are also copying other things... such as the RO items & interface...



The sprites are the same, with little to no edits.
If you still fail to see this, you are either retarded or blinded by your fanboyism.

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dude, you came in just to start a flame war? get a freaking life.
this is already a flame war from both side . I just gived a opinion like someone else did .

plus If actually Gravity cared about stealing or copying sprites from RO ,the chinese game of Aurora blade woudnt be in a court case by now?
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this is already a flame war from both side . I just gived a opinion like someone else did .

plus If actually Gravity cared about stealing or copying sprites from RO ,the chinese game of Aurora blade woudnt be in a court case by now?
your mindless opinion wasnt needed. you came in and said "i hate both games" and fugged off.

how insightful. troll.
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Old 11-30-2008, 06:28 PM   #20 (permalink)
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this is already a flame war from both side . I just gived a opinion like someone else did .

plus If actually Gravity cared about stealing or copying sprites from RO ,the chinese game of Aurora blade woudnt be in a court case by now?
Suing for counterfeiting/copyright infringement in china is a lost cause.
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