Old 11-30-2008, 10:35 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I'll ask for him (im curious also).

Blas_Eir, can you provide solid evidence, documentation, or proof that the development team behind Miu World legally bought rights to use and edit the graphics from games such as LaTale, Ragnarok Online, WoW, Sword of Mana, etc?
No, he probably can't, but you also can't prove that they didn't buy the rights so why don't we all just shut the hell up because it's not like this will affect how fun/shitty the game will be anyway. And besides that, how the hell do you expect someone to find proof of something like that? It's not like they announce over the internet that they bought the rights to use game sprites...because no one gives a crap.
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Old 11-30-2008, 10:39 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Im making this thread for all the people who thinks that IGG is making something Illegal regarding the new game they host, Aurora Blade.
These people are flaming the game because they think most of the stuff is stolen, Ragnarok sprites, Sword of Mana Graphics, etc, etc.
They believe that they are going to be sued, the game is gonna be cancelled, the game is going to suck because it looks similar to other games, etc.

These people are wrong.

The game is licensed, not made by IGG, there is a big difference and it seems that some people dont understand it (or doesnt know what it means).
It is true that the game looks similar to other games, the reason for this is that the game is using graphic engines from other companies.
Does that means that they stole it? No. It means that they BUYED it.


The living proof to this is that Aurora Blade is the English version of a Chinese version called Miuworld. Miuworld is in the market for over one year and hasnt suffered any legal problems. If you dont want to believe me then:
http://www.miuworld.com/

I already played the game.
Aurora Blade is a Board based 2D MMORPG with a turn based battle system.
And its actually quite hard to find one of this kind that doesnt suck. Then again its IGG, so its probably going to be nerfed for the people who spends real money in it.
BUYED it :P Epic
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Old 11-30-2008, 10:54 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I'll ask for him (im curious also).

Blas_Eir, can you provide solid evidence, documentation, or proof that the development team behind Miu World legally bought rights to use and edit the graphics from games such as LaTale, Ragnarok Online, WoW, Sword of Mana, etc?
That depends in what you call "solid evidence".
I think that a small game that has been online for over one year with all the obvious similarities and hasnt been cancelled yet for obvious reasons to be proof. (I also checked in the forums and did some research, but due of my lack of chinese and the horrible google traslator I rather not post it, because it cant be really called "solid evidence").
You can also consider that there is no way that IGG will host a game that have legal problems in china, they arent THAT stupid.

I can ask you the same thing
What "solid evidence" do you have that this game hasnt buyed the rights to post all this stuff?
How a small game like this survived this long without being sued?
Why IGG hasnt been sued yet?

And dont tell me that they dont because they wouldnt win any profit, any company that knows that they are being ripped off will react in some way (specially if its such a small game, they wouldnt be of any challange for so many well known companies like Blizzard or Square Enix).


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No, he probably can't, but you also can't prove that they didn't buy the rights so why don't we all just shut the hell up because it's not like this will affect how fun/shitty the game will be anyway. And besides that, how the hell do you expect someone to find proof of something like that? It's not like they announce over the internet that they bought the rights to use game sprites...because no one gives a crap.
Exactly, I agree with you.
This isnt going anywhere.



Why is everybody saying that they are stealing from other companies if they dont have enough proof of that?
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Old 11-30-2008, 11:03 PM   #64 (permalink)
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That depends in what you call "solid evidence".
I think that a small game that has been online for over one year with all the obvious similarities and hasnt been cancelled yet for obvious reasons to be proof. (I also checked in the forums and did some research, but due of my lack of chinese and the horrible google traslator I rather not post it, because it cant be really called "solid evidence").
You can also consider that there is no way that IGG will host a game that have legal problems in china, they arent THAT stupid.

I can ask you the same thing
What "solid evidence" do you have that this game hasnt buyed the rights to post all this stuff?
How a small game like this survived this long without being sued?
Why IGG hasnt been sued yet?

And dont tell me that they dont because they wouldnt win any profit, any company that knows that they are being ripped off will react in some way (specially if its such a small game, they wouldnt be of any challange for so many well known companies like Blizzard or Square Enix).




Exactly, I agree with you.
This isnt going anywhere.



Why is everybody saying that they are stealing from other companies if they dont have enough proof of that?
Because Everyone DOES have proof? do you even read other peoples post? and what possibly makes you think that a Chinese Company(and a small one at that) bought licensing for all those games? are you stupid..?
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Old 11-30-2008, 11:07 PM   #65 (permalink)
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No, he probably can't, but you also can't prove that they didn't buy the rights so why don't we all just shut the hell up because it's not like this will affect how fun/shitty the game will be anyway. And besides that, how the hell do you expect someone to find proof of something like that? It's not like they announce over the internet that they bought the rights to use game sprites...because no one gives a crap.
****ing christ, calm down it wasnt directed to you.

edit: ok now this thread is offically going no where, inb4thelock
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Old 11-30-2008, 11:10 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Because Everyone DOES have proof? do you even read other peoples post? and what possibly makes you think that a Chinese Company(and a small one at that) bought licensing for all those games? are you stupid..?

If you are right tell me...
What is this proof that you are talking?
Do you have any solid evidence that this game hasnt buyed the rights to post all this stuff?
How a small game like this survived this long without being sued?
Why IGG hasnt been sued yet?
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Old 11-30-2008, 11:12 PM   #67 (permalink)
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there no proof at all for both side /end thread
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Old 11-30-2008, 11:17 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Can we at least argue over a) a decent game, and b) a valid point? Some piddlin' little company hasn't got the money to buy the time of day from big names like Bliz, Gravity, etc. let alone having bought a crap-load of sprites off of RO. Cmon now.. it's like jamming fingers in your ears if you won't admit that a game made entirely out of things taken directly from other games is extremely suspicious.

It seems kinda like you don't wanna admit that Aurora Blade could just be some rip game made by a fly-by-night company because you really like it.
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Can we at least argue over a) a decent game, and b) a valid point? Some piddlin' little company hasn't got the money to buy the time of day from big names like Bliz, Gravity, etc. let alone having bought a crap-load of sprites off of RO. Cmon now.. it's like jamming fingers in your ears if you won't admit that a game made entirely out of things taken directly from other games is extremely suspicious.
Again, having the same sprites doesnt mean they are stealing them.

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It seems kinda like you don't wanna admit that Aurora Blade could just be some rip game made by a fly-by-night company because you really like it.
Im saying that or I am saying that all of those who say that this game is stolen doesnt have enough proof?
How comes that nobody can answer these questions:

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What "solid evidence" do you have that this game hasnt buyed the rights to post all this stuff?
How a small game like this survived this long without being sued?
Why IGG hasnt been sued yet?


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there no proof at all for both side /end thread
I agree this isnt going anywhere, dont keep insisting, there isnt enough proof to prove anything.
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Old 11-30-2008, 11:35 PM   #70 (permalink)
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It means that they BUYED it.
No, it means they bought it, silly.
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