To start off?

Glavus · 07-21-2006, 05:38 AM

Can someone recommend a language for a beginner to start off with:confused: . I've always been interested in learning a language but I either start off with something too hard and quit the next day or just don't know where to start

. If any of you could recommend something to get started with just to make something simple.. anything really. I don't want any engines like "Game maker" I've used that, made a few games but without codes :rolleyes: . Just to let you know, I know nothing at all :rolleyes: .

TwitcH · 07-21-2006, 07:14 AM

I would reccomend perl as a good starting language. There are tutorials for it stickied at the top of this section and you will have to download the interpreter at http://www.perl.com .

If you need anything else along the way dont be afraid to ask.

EDIT: Just realised the perl page is a bit tough to get around, so if you want to download perl go to here: http://www.activestate.com/Products/ActivePerl/?_x=1

And click "ActivePerl 5.8.8.817" under current releases, the rest is easy.

XceeD · 07-21-2006, 02:55 PM

Well, I would suggest Perl also because it's really easy on the coder (except the regexes...), it's good to start with and learn a bit of the concept of coding but then when you get into translating and everything, it gets kinda confusing and annoying. (I gave up on chapter 2, that was the chapter in my perl book :/)

I would suggest something like Flash because it's a language similar to Perl and is easy on the coder too. Along with that, you'll learn to do a little Object Oriented Programming. (I think Flash is OOP xD, it has objects and orients around them and AS is programming xD, no seriously...)

If you decide flash, check out this site: www.actionscript.org

Off-Topic (a little at least): ooo, since you said perl, check this perl script out (not mine!)

Code:

    ''=~(        '(?{'        .('`'        |'%')        .('['        ^'-')
    .('`'        |'!')        .('`'        |',')        .'"'.        '\\$'
    .'=='        .('['        ^'+')        .('`'        |'/')        .('['
    ^'+')        .'||'        .(';'        &'=')        .(';'        &'=')
    .';-'        .'-'.        '\\$'        .'=;'        .('['        ^'(')
    .('['        ^'.')        .('`'        |'"')        .('!'        ^'+')
   .'_\\{'      .'(\\$'      .';=('.      '\\$=|'      ."\|".(      '`'^'.'
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 ).('['^'/')  .('['^'/').  ('`'|',').(  '`'|('%')).  '\\".\\"'.(  '['^('(')).
 '\\"'.('['^  '#').'!!--'  .'\\$=.\\"'  .('{'^'[').  ('`'|'/').(  '`'|"\&").(
 '{'^"\[").(  '`'|"\"").(  '`'|"\%").(  '`'|"\%").(  '['^(')')).  '\\").\\"'.
 ('{'^'[').(  '`'|"\/").(  '`'|"\.").(  '{'^"\[").(  '['^"\/").(  '`'|"\(").(
 '`'|"\%").(  '{'^"\[").(  '['^"\,").(  '`'|"\!").(  '`'|"\,").(  '`'|(',')).
 '\\"\\}'.+(  '['^"\+").(  '['^"\)").(  '`'|"\)").(  '`'|"\.").(  '['^('/')).
 '+_,\\",'.(  '{'^('[')).  ('\\$;!').(  '!'^"\+").(  '{'^"\/").(  '`'|"\!").(
 '`'|"\+").(  '`'|"\%").(  '{'^"\[").(  '`'|"\/").(  '`'|"\.").(  '`'|"\%").(
 '{'^"\[").(  '`'|"\$").(  '`'|"\/").(  '['^"\,").(  '`'|('.')).  ','.(('{')^
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 '.').("\`"|  '.').("\`"|  '$')."\,".(  '!'^('+')).  '\\",_,\\"'  .'!'.("\!"^
 '+').("\!"^  '+').'\\"'.  ('['^',').(  '`'|"\(").(  '`'|"\)").(  '`'|"\,").(
 '`'|('%')).  '++\\$="})'  );$:=('.')^  '~';$~='@'|  '(';$^=')'^  '[';$/='`';

First time I saw that, I was thinkin, that can't be a perl script... Run it, it's amazing!

n0madic0debc · 07-21-2006, 04:08 PM

Yes TLM and Xceed are right perl is very good to start with. I started with that then went to VB6 right now im trying to put time off so that i can learn C++. Just use perl until you get the basics of programming what its about, and the basics and stuff. Then you can move on. I would try Visual Basic when you think your ready, because its helpful in the aspect that you can see what your doing, because the Program for it makes it easy for you. You choose the object or w/e, from the toolbox on the left, place it in your program then double cllick it, and vwalah you just made a coded object that when they click or w/e something happens. Its very cool, and you can do many things to windows if you learn VB. Seriously my start menu doesnt say start......, and shutdown button doesnt shutdown slowly and stuff. I press it and bam it turns off.

This is done by creating a function with the win32 api text, But you will get into this later. For now stick to perl.

Glavus · 07-21-2006, 07:31 PM

Thx, I downloaded perl and extracted it. I open "Perl" in the bin folder right? I don't have time to test what goes where gtg to work

, an answer would be appreciated.

07-21-2006, 05:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
Glavus Raiyne's Rock Band Join Date: May 2006 Location: 1337 world. Posts: 1,555 Reputation: 12 MMOFaces Profile: None Yet	To start off? Can someone recommend a language for a beginner to start off with:confused: . I've always been interested in learning a language but I either start off with something too hard and quit the next day or just don't know where to start . If any of you could recommend something to get started with just to make something simple.. anything really. I don't want any engines like "Game maker" I've used that, made a few games but without codes :rolleyes: . Just to let you know, I know nothing at all :rolleyes: . __________________

07-21-2006, 07:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
TwitcH Retired Staff Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,025 MMOFaces Profile: None Yet	I would reccomend perl as a good starting language. There are tutorials for it stickied at the top of this section and you will have to download the interpreter at http://www.perl.com . If you need anything else along the way dont be afraid to ask. EDIT: Just realised the perl page is a bit tough to get around, so if you want to download perl go to here: http://www.activestate.com/Products/ActivePerl/?_x=1 And click "ActivePerl 5.8.8.817" under current releases, the rest is easy. Last edited by TwitcH; 07-21-2006 at 07:17 AM.

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Glavus Raiyne's Rock Band Join Date: May 2006 Location: 1337 world. Posts: 1,555 Reputation: 12 MMOFaces Profile: None Yet	Thx, I downloaded perl and extracted it. I open "Perl" in the bin folder right? I don't have time to test what goes where gtg to work , an answer would be appreciated. __________________

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n0madic0debc Link's Dirty Sock Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 41 Reputation: 10 MMOFaces Profile: None Yet	Yes TLM and Xceed are right perl is very good to start with. I started with that then went to VB6 right now im trying to put time off so that i can learn C++. Just use perl until you get the basics of programming what its about, and the basics and stuff. Then you can move on. I would try Visual Basic when you think your ready, because its helpful in the aspect that you can see what your doing, because the Program for it makes it easy for you. You choose the object or w/e, from the toolbox on the left, place it in your program then double cllick it, and vwalah you just made a coded object that when they click or w/e something happens. Its very cool, and you can do many things to windows if you learn VB. Seriously my start menu doesnt say start......, and shutdown button doesnt shutdown slowly and stuff. I press it and bam it turns off. This is done by creating a function with the win32 api text, But you will get into this later. For now stick to perl.