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Originally Posted by Mordar
twin snakes was MGS 1 with improved graphics, end of story, console wise "fool"
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Sorry, that's just idiotic. Mgs twin snakes had nothing to do with hideo kojima, and was made by another company altogether. This doesn't detract from the original metal gear solids exclusiveness at all. The pc port would make a point, but this is just irrelevant and you grasping at straws.
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Originally Posted by Mordar
doesn't take away the fact, those "precious" exclusive that fanboys nerdraged about weren't exclusives anymore, and like I said, I'll laugh when MGS 4 gets ported to the x360 and you and all of the Ps3 fanatical religious zealots start bleeding out of their ears because the console they think it's god on earth has no more exclusives on its own
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Oh noes, the fanbois gotz upset. That is neither here nor there. We're not discussing fanboy reactions here, we're discussing the possibility of an mgs4 port, which based just on that flash is pretty slim. If you think the sentence "the next metal gear" pluss a symbol that can be likened to an xbox power-button means an mgs4 port in specific, then it's you who're the biased fanboy here. It's a far reach by any standard.
If it had been in any other context, people would most likely assume it was the announcement of a new metal gear game of any kind. The fact that people automatically jumped to the conclusion that it had to mean mgs4 in particular, shows fanboyism to the extreme, since it's the one game that has struck a good blow for ps3 as a console.
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Originally Posted by Mordar
actually, they did, a lot
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Oh really? please back that up. Because last time I checked, the actual console war, didn't really become relevant until xbox had been out for quite while, and the talk of next-gen consoles was brought up. By the time substance came out, mgs2 had been out on the ps2 for quite a while. I doubt any of the original mgs2 owners could give a care about substance going to the xbox anymore than the dated mgs1 being ported to pc. Especially, since xbox at that time was more expensive than ps2 and nowhere near as popular as a console.
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Originally Posted by Mordar
they did, MGS 1 was supposed to be an exclusive for sony, when it was released for the pc people weren't that idiotic of fanboy-like in their attitude because the console wars was a stalemate, when MGS 2 was released for the xbox people started raging all on about but nobody cared since MGS 2 didn't have that much of a fanbase
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Lol, this just shows how little you know. By the time of mgs1 there was hardly any point in the public discussing exclusiveness. The market was owned by ps1 and N64, and it was pretty much an unstated fact what games would be on what console. It wasn't a stalemate, there was no true console war outside of the economocial scene.
Besides, you're contradicting yourself. People started raging over a port, when there was no fanbase? How does that make any sense? And wtf, no fanbase? Mgs2 was extremely well recieved and sold over 7 million copies world-wide. Are you daft?
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Originally Posted by Mordar
I remember on a interview kojima's team were discussing on a possibility of working on a MGS original work on the x360 so I doubt they don't have the
man-force to actually port MGS 4 with no that much of a graphics downgrade, if, anything at all
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Again, are you daft? It's not a matter of manforce, it's a matter of hideo's way of working. He is obsessed with delivering the absolute best product he can. That entails using the best of hardware as well. He has even expressed disappointment with mgs4 because he felt it could have been even bigger.
What you think is irrelevant on this part, because it's still a matter of hardware. You doubt they couldn't port it with a graphical downgrade? Well, that depends on the original specs of the game. You don't know the specs of the game, so you can't say whether or not it would work on the xbox without a downgrade, nor how substansial such a downgrade would have to be. Furthermore, all we have to go on here is hideo's talks on the matter, and the way he expresses it, he makes it clear that he didn't think it would be possible to make it work on any other console. He even goes as far as to imply in-game that it wouldn't work.
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Originally Posted by Mordar
but it doesn't take away the fact that FF XIII was supposed to be a ps3 exclusive and graphics-wise I don't get the whole stupid deal about "downgrade" when these people have enough money and people to work out a port that it's almost the same quality as anything the ps3 can offer, it's like these fanboys think the developers will go "oh, since we released something good for the ps3 we are gonna release a piece of shit port for the x360 because the ps3 it's too awsome for us to bring a quality product to another console and have tons of money in exchange"
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Wtf, again the exclusivity is of FF XIII is hardly relevant at all in this matter.
And you don't get the graphics matter? wtf, what is there to get? It is not a matter of money. No matter how much money you have, you can't magically make a game of a certain graphics work on an inferior system. Of course, they can make a game that's easy to port, by not exceeding the system specs of the xbox360 in the original ps3 game, which is, as far as I've read, what they plan on doing.
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Originally Posted by Mordar
and anyone but a diehard fanboy or a demented idiot, would deny the possibility of a game being ported for either console even if one has more graphical capabilities than the other
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But then, nobody said that, which makes your point moot. Stop assuming things. However, it is not the matter of a downgrade by itself, it is a matter of hideo's(since it is his game and his decission) attitude when it comes to making and releasing games. He chose the ps3 in the first place because of its superior specs. That makes it unlikely, that he would release it on the xbox360 if it meant he would have to compromise the content of the original version.
This was never an issue with the pc version of mgs1, or the xbox version of substance, since in both cases the port was made for systems with superior specs to the original.
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Originally Posted by Mordar
like I said, I'm gonna laugh when a MGS 4 port comes to the x360
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Which makes you a fanboy. I find it funny that you're so obsessed with talking down on ps3 fanboys, and make such an effort at discrediting any claim that is not in favour of a mgs4 port, and yet not see your own blatant fanboyism. I guess that's the deal with hypocrisy...
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Originally Posted by Mordar
I seriously don't get the stupid idiotic attitude of some fanboys like jakuza or dannylamb about their precious console or not accepting the fact of the possibility of a MGS 4 for another console that's not "their own", and on top of that they rage and throw tamtruns and insults over people that accept this possibility, you are no different than religious fanatical zealots mindlessly defending their religion, but in this case, it's about a stupid console 
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More or less like how you're arguing right now in other words? Rambling on without compelling arguments, void of any substance, leaning only on unfounded assumptions.
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I know right?, I guess they can't accept how their "awzum" console it's not doing well enough and have to justify their expenditure and time on their console by defending it like it was a holy crusade
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This is just stupid. Accepting how their consoles isn't doing well enough, and justifying the time and money spendt on the console? wtf is this bullshit? When was time and money, or how well a console doing relevant at all to a persons ability and right to enjoy gaming on said console? The dreamcast did shitty job, yet I find it has a higher entertainment-level than most of the next-gen consoles put together. That doesn't make me a dreamcast fanboy, it makes me a human being with subjective preferances. You know, how some people like metal music, and some people hate it?
Fanboys are retards regardless of what console they worship. Xbox360 fanboys are just as retarded as any ps3 fanboy, so get over yourself. it's obvious you have some issue or another with people who likes ps3 in specific, which most likely makes you a fanboy yourself, or just a person who's unable to see things from different angles.