Old 12-16-2008, 09:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
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if you straight grind on monsters the rates are about the same, but because of quests it's mad fast. Generally what works for me is doing all the quests at your level in same area first then doing any others second. there's usually some central hub point you should be doing quests at for your current level.

Or you can hope that they make another mistake and let the iris points dish out millions of exp again =P
o.o, well most quests atm gives horrid exp, lets see what i get later....
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Old 12-17-2008, 03:35 AM   #12 (permalink)
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He is actually wrong about pure grinding still, latale grinding is always faster than MS grind by a noticeable difference (when we talk about time) many people have tried and tested it on many levels ~
It may seem like it but if you went and tested it you can easily compare it for yourself.

Anyway I know at the start of the game and in the lower levels you might think
"Oh this quest gives me x exp I could get that faster by just grinding blah blah blah"

The quest exp may seem horrid and I agree off the bat the quests aren't amazingly good in reward but they are decent. The quests you unlock as you level are a sort of guide, the monsters you must hunt for these quests are usually monsters you would grind on anyway so just pick-up the quests and do them as you grind and travel. You also need the money from quests since you could struggle keeping updated with weapons/armour/potions without ely from quests.

As you progress into the higher levels the quests get amazingly good rewards and also very good experience and levelling actually becomes easier as you get higher imo
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Old 12-17-2008, 04:14 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Latale has really easy lvling. I would boast it to have the fastest lvling for an mmo (aside from private servers). This is coming from a guy who often quits mmo's at about lvl 16 because of the tough grind. Thats why I quit maple. Anyways.. what makes the games leveling so easy is the quests. Although they seam pointless at the beginning, just stick it out to about lvl 20 and you will see the dramatic exp increase in rewards, and each quest is repeatable 3X with about 3~5 quests PER level. Aside from just questing, I very highly suggest inviting some random people around your level and party up. The game is so much more fulfilling with people to play with. The community is generally nice, so partying with random strangers is actually fun . I'm level 59 now.. I know that isn't much for most people, but thats alot more than I expected to get to..seeing as how I only played casually. I would be higher level if I could still play.

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Old 12-17-2008, 04:49 AM   #14 (permalink)
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He is actually wrong about pure grinding still, latale grinding is always faster than MS grind by a noticeable difference (when we talk about time) many people have tried and tested it on many levels ~
It may seem like it but if you went and tested it you can easily compare it for yourself.
I have tested it. I currently play MS and Latale so i have a fresh idea of what the exp rates are on both games.

Straight grind on monsters on Latale, (my level 54 character) is about .04 -.09% depending on the monster. Per kill that is much higher than MS. However, you spend more time killing monsters on Latale than you do on MS. a single kill on MS for monsters in the 50's gives at best .02 exp, but most classes can kill monsters in a single hit if not two within a second or two of monsters appearing on the map. It takes longer to kill monsters on Latale but you get more exp and likewise you get less exp per kill on MS but you can kill monsters faster. when you look at the overall time it would take to level a character solo with straight grind in the 50's on Latale and MS, LaTale would win but not by that much. However like it's been said already, quests give a large amount of exp on LT so you level a lot faster than you do on MS.
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Old 12-17-2008, 03:40 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Dont forget the +30% exp for 30m every 24h. 15% xp bonus levi stone or 40% iris stone. Xp enchants on fashion clothes, animal 20% set bonuses. Xp nostroms till lv.50 with +50% xp a hour.

I know people who got to lv.50 in 2-3 days. There is also someone with the name "Grindtastic" who got to lv.100 in 2 weeks. Yes, no life. But still.... its very very fast if you got cash, time and know what your doing.

About the Maple Vs Latale debate. Its getting old. But remember what we got right now is not even 50% of Latale. I played maple till 138, so I got a understanding of the game. The exp rates are not even close! Latale is not a little faster but alot faster! Personally, I like Latale alot more, cant wait for PvP.
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Old 12-17-2008, 05:12 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Dont forget the +30% exp for 30m every 24h. 15% xp bonus levi stone or 40% iris stone. Xp enchants on fashion clothes, animal 20% set bonuses. Xp nostroms till lv.50 with +50% xp a hour.

I know people who got to lv.50 in 2-3 days. There is also someone with the name "Grindtastic" who got to lv.100 in 2 weeks. Yes, no life. But still.... its very very fast if you got cash, time and know what your doing.

About the Maple Vs Latale debate. Its getting old. But remember what we got right now is not even 50% of Latale. I played maple till 138, so I got a understanding of the game. The exp rates are not even close! Latale is not a little faster but alot faster! Personally, I like Latale alot more, cant wait for PvP.
The same can be said about MS, with the right gear and exp boosts, leveling is also pretty fast. Two of my friends got to level 100+ and 90+ just from the 2xp event alone, in the new global server recently and they started from scratch. Leveling on either game is slow or fast depending on the player, it's just easier on LaTale. My point was never, "it's faster leveling on ___ than ___ with the right knowledge, gear or cash" but "___ and ___ have similar straight grind leveling rates". That's all, I'm just looking at it from a statistical point of view and not personal.

people's opinions of LaTale vary anyway lol; Some of the members here who were hyping up the KR version so much are some of the same people who claimed that they wouldn't play the English version because the rates were too low.

Here's something else to take note of though,

"Q: What is the max level in this game? is it more or less grindy than maple?
A: The max level is lv.200 but nobody has reached there yet, it is of course less grindy than maplestory. with the quests available you'll reach Lv.120 in less than two months, but it really depends on how long you play the game per day."

http://www.onrpg.com/boards/1138085-post1.html
That was taken from the big mega post made by Ceres, one of those people that I mentioned that said she wouldn't play the english version of latale because the rates were low.

"yugioh korean latale highest player is only 183 >.<
If i am not wrong the highest lv monster map is hayabusa castle aka owl castle :P hard to uz GRIND all the way to 183 so i doubt 3rd jo is on the way for korean or jap latale Let alone OGP latale >.>"


http://newforum.ogplanet.com/forum_p...735&PID=833052
That was taken from the ogplanet forums dec 03, 2008. So tell me, How is LaTale less grindy than MS when people in the JP version with more content, and I believe higher rates, are unable to reach the cap and currently if you take a look at the global version of MS you'll find a good number of people who are all 200 and more in the 190's? there were people who were level 200 way before 4th jobs were even out in MS.

The real problem is the degenerating exp system that latale uses; Leveling up decreases the amount of exp you get from monsters lower than your level. After a while you get less exp from the monsters you kill till it's hardly anything at all. MS using a "stable" exp system in which monsters have set experience values that never change.
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Its because the exp tables get crazy at high lvl, and the highest mobs are only around lv.140. If you know how exp works in this game. A lvl180 that grinds on lv.140 mobs, would probably only get around 25% exp of its original exp while theire requirement of lvlup are much much higher.

Its impossible to reach lvl200 in Latale right now, no matter what version. I seen the exp tables. To make it to lvl200 you need the exp total of a lv.140 30x!!. At the same time you get less and less exp at higher lvl.

Why they did this? Probably because the game is still in development, Korea got eps.4 robot city and a new class. I would not be suprised if they get 3th classes in 6 months or so. And content to reach 200. Still that doesnt take away, that to a certain point. Around lvl150. Latale is faster then maple.

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Its because the exp tables get crazy at high lvl, and the highest mobs are only around lv.140. If you know how exp works in this game. A lvl180 that grinds on lv.140 mobs, would probably only get around 25% exp of its original exp while theire requirement of lvlup are much much higher.

Its impossible to reach lvl200 in Latale right now, no matter what version. I seen the exp tables. To make it to lvl200 you need the exp total of a lv.140 30x!!. At the same time you get less and less exp at higher lvl.

Why they did this? Probably because the game is still in development, Korea got eps.4 robot city and a new class. I would not be suprised if they get 3th classes in 6 months or so. And content to reach 200. Still that doesnt take away, that to a certain point. Around lvl150. Latale is faster then maple.
I already agree that you level faster in latale with content. Once again, my point is that straight grind for both games is about the same up until a point then MS has a faster rate. MS did not have mobs at incredibly high levels at one point in time and yet people were able to reach the cap, you cannot do that in Latale. They have to add mobs near the cap in latale for players to reach the cap, that isn't the case with MS.
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You know there is level 200's in japanese and chinese versions.
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You know there is level 200's in japanese and chinese versions.

Really? How are there level 200 people in the Japanese and Chinese servers when the highest in the Korean server is 183? The Korean version was out before all others and should have the most content and highest leveled players. That's odd.
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