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Oisterboy

Let me take your post one chunk at a time:

Habit forming? Yes. "Addicting"...in a sense maybe. Its addicting in the sense that it is really fun, and you want to keep doing it because it is so fun. Addicting in a sense where you can get withdrawals and NEED it? I think not. I've never seen anyone really NEED cannabis. I have friends who have gone through opiate addictions, amphetamine addictions, and alcohol addictions. I guess its when I compare myself to them that I really don't feel bad about my smoking. In comparison to them, I'm just a normal person.

Getting more done now...hm. That has to be a coincidence. It has to vary by the individual then. Personally, when I smoke it motivates me. I get on my bike and go on crazy adventures that I never would have bothered with otherwise. I've gone through extraordinary lengths just to smoke at that awesome spot out 3 miles in the woods. Granted marijuana was my fuel AND motivation...but it really does get me out and doing things. Sure, its fun to veg out and laugh at Spongebob too, but I don't really like being indoors when I smoke.

Paranoia? You got paranoid because its illegal! I love how they say that herb causes paranoia, its the LAW man that causes paranoia. You'd have nothing to worry about if it was legal. (except maybe your folks finding out, which you shouldn't have to worry about if you are smoking, you should be of rightful age to choose for yourself)

Also; as for the part of your last post..."nobody is really stopping you from smoking this herb. Grow some in your loft, smoke a bit, nobody will care. "...thats just the trouble...someone WILL care. Every time I fire up, or go to pick some up, or walk home with it in my pocket...I have to be worried that the DEA will kick down my door. If they just left the personal users alone, I wouldn't give a half a shit about it being legalized, because I'm not looking to be a dealer. I'm just interested in myself, and my friends. If what you said were true (here in the states anyway) I wouldn't be worried about legalization at all!

And finally...I'd rather have high people wandering around in public than drunken idiots who want to fight me for looking at them across the parking lot. Alcohol makes people angry a lot of the time. It really impairs your judgment and makes you feel invincible. Herb? Shiiiiiit. Herb makes me wanna ride my bike around and give everyone a high five.


I'm not trying to fight with ya, just a little healthy debate now and then is fun.


I don't know if English isn't your first language or whatever, but your posts really don't send a strong message for the non-tokers if it is. I'm totally burned out and my posts are much more coherent than yours.

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Xynh

Lol why is OnRPG failing? Where is this new journalist coming from and why does he say that "MJ is addictive" because its his opinion? A journalist's job is to collect valid information.

And PhilosLol, try again.

Anyways, I voted yes.

BGLamb

Ok, first up the journalist thing. People keep flaming me for this. I am a journalist. That means people pay me for what I write. It doesn't mean that my writing has to conform to anything that me and my employer don't want it to. Lots of journalists write just their opinions and no facts. I am stating that these views are my opinion. it is also my opinion that a lot of my views are facts, but I'm not going to go to the trouble of trying to find hard evidence for them, and more than any of you are. Everyone likes to quote what is and isn't a fact, but you never see any real evidence.

Second: Paranoia. I wasn't paranoid of cops, or my parents. I'm a grown man, and live in a country where cops don't kick your door down and don't give a shit about you smoking a joint. This is genuine class A paranoia induced by smoking the herb. You can argue all you want about facts, but this is something that happened to me, so you can choose to disbelive it, but you're not gonna talk me out of my view.

I'd love more people to be stoned instead of drunk too, they're much easier to deal with.

And what you're saying about worrying about the DEA, I refer to my earlier point about decriminalisation.

What you say about addiction is a very grey area. The line between want and need is difficult to draw. Generally you term something an addiction when it makes the affected person do things that would normally be against their best interest. I don't think that the line you are drawing between habbit-forming and addiction is as clear in real life as you would like it to be.


PS. PhilosLol -- These stoners might not be able to understand you, but I think you're talking sense.

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Oisterboy

Out of curiosity...what were you paranoid of? If you don't want to say infront of everyone, that is ok too. Personally, the only paranoia I ever felt was "Oh god, I hope nobody comes around the corner while I am smoking". Nothing any different FOR ME anyway.

Same with the "addiction". I mean, Its damn cold out right now. Maybe like 14 degrees F. I could walk a mile down the road and pick up a quarter...but its too cold lol. IMO, that signifies that I'm not addicted. Once again, I speak only from my personal experience on this one. My girlfriend, and my friend who smokes with me are the same exact way. Maybe it has a bigger effect on some people...but everyone I know and smoke with have a real handle on life...so I just can't grasp anyone being full blown "addicted" to cannabis.

Edit: I'd like to make it clear that I didn't say anything about the "journalist" thing. Peoples status' really don't matter that much to me when I'm arguing my side

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BGLamb

The paranoia was social paranoia.

Characterised by a constant internal monologue reading all kinds of layers into stuff that would stop me from being able to hold a normal conversation and make me wanna go home and smoke on my own with my Playstation.

And the addiction was the kind that even when I was dead set on giving up smoking, it took me over a year to have the strength of will to finally kick the habbit. I used to just sit around and smoke and do nothing else and it was really ****ing hard to kick.

I used to not believe in this kind of addiction to weed when I'd only been smoking for a couple of years, but after the best part of a decade, it had a very significant psychological effect on me.

I'm not saying everyone would get addicted like that, but I think it happens much more than people realise.

EDIT: I know it wasn't you with the journo thing, that was Xynh. It's like the 3rd time this week someone's flamed me for being a journalist and not agreeing with them.

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PhilosLol

@Oisterboy
English is my 3rd language.

@Xynh
I want to try again, but I'm tired.

@Topic
I was high when I wrote that *sarcasm*. When I read it again, it doesn't make any sense.

What I was trying to say is, if marijuana is legalize, then the world would be ****ed up. The End.

If the world leader (president, prime minister, king, whatever) are like Oisterboy, the world is surely ****ed up. People would be high all day long.
There will be no doctor, lawyer, judge and whatsoever. No offense plz.

How about thinking more to the future?

I'll write more when I'm not high. (notice the sarcasm?)

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BGLamb

Well said.

@Oiseterboy: Shame on you criticizing somebody's third language. I hope you feel bad now.

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Oisterboy

Orly? I guess it really does depend upon the person then. Because when I started smoking, it STOPPED my social paranoia. I'm confident to talk to anyone and everyone now.

Interesting. Did you used to smoke with people, or usually on your own?

No, not really. Thats why I asked if English was his first language. I can appreciate that its not, and can make better exceptions now.

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PhilosLol

Nonono. I don't mind.

@Oister
Its funny because you only think individually, you don't think what marijuana would effect a country.

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BGLamb

Mainly on my own. Never been hugely sociable, but I'm fine usually.

There were times with friends when i was ok. When I've smoked it since quitting it's not come back. I used to get the paranoia on my own anyway. It would just act retro-actively to anything I'd said or done recently. Was rubbish.

Still, long behind me. I'm much more metropolitan now. Half a gram of charlie a night and I'm everybody's friend!

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