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i made an archer but cant decide which 2nd job to pick
please can you list the pro's and con's of each?

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HappyViet

Hunters

Pros
-Slightly faster shooting
-Bow doesn't block face (for NX users)

Cons
-Slightly lower damage

Crossbowmans

Pros
-Slightly higher damage

Cons
-Slightly slower shooting
-Non-NXed crossbows block face

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CJeeey

hunter

pro:
will be a bowmaster later
wil use hurricane instead of strafe.

Con:
your only using hurricane

Xbow

pro:
As Marksman your can deal over 99k every once a while.
Use diffrent skills while training

Con:
Stll stuck to Strafe lvl 120 + allot. (witch is slow)
No Hurricance D (sry had to)



Ok my pro's and con's are a bit not fair maybe
since im a bowmaster myself
and i would suggest anyone to go bowmaster

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xChrome

Fact: Speed differential between Rangers/BMs and Snipers/MMs when strafing is very, very minute.
Fact: Hurricane does not at all replace Strafe as a BM's primary attacking skill. They are used in conjunction with each other.
Fact: The majority of MS prefers BMs to MMs when bossing. They just do.

Bowmasters
Pros: Sharp Eyes, Hurricane, more wanted in parties, Concentrate, stun in 2nd job, preferred over Marksmen at bosses, Inferno allows training at Blue Kentauri, uninterrupted DPS higher than Marksmen given that they don't have maxed Snipe
Cons: No freeze, non-useful 4th job bird, bow and skillbook prices, Hurricane is interrupted often

Marksmen
Pros: Sharp Eyes, Snipe, freezing allows for less damage taken and more training versatility, freezing 4th job bird, powerful 2nd job mobbing (Iron Arrow), crossbow and skillbook prices are lower than those of BMs
Cons: Uninterrupted DPS is lower than Bowmasters without maxed Snipe, Pierce has a 2.5 sec chargeup, Pierce and Snipe are limited by the damage cap, no stun at 2nd job, BMs are preferred over MMs in parties, Iron Arrow does not "bend", BMs preferred at bosses

ThunderaWolf

Aww Zadams sticky is outdated(since its all 4th job stuff.

really depends on how far your going
2nd job Hunter
3rd job Xbow
4th job Hunter

thats pretty much the whole of it right?

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xChrome

No.

Snipers have an advantage in 3rd job, but in 2nd and 4th neither job is better than the other. It's all playing style.

CJeeey

Not a fact, since me as lvl 152 BM hardly ever use Strafe. Hurricane is faster en has the same damage (both 100%) since both are maxed. and there for Hurricane totaly becomes your primary att skill at bosses and regulair training.

Opinion of a bowmaster about this fact xD

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ThunderaWolf

The way you put it, it sounds like in 4th job BM's are much prefered. The only thing MM's have going for them is snipe and a freezing bird. Make it more clear in your above post then.

About second job, regardless of playstyle hunter is easier due to the curving nature of AB, and honestly the stun as well(Freeze is so good but stun isn't..), so realisticly by my looking at it the only time Xbows are better is third(though you can argue playstyle for anything so don't bother using that argument, its moot.

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xChrome

Marksmen have far superior mobbing than Bowmasters (As do Snipers over Rangers, but Hunters have an upper hand in 2nd job), and when KMS Snipe rolls around, they will beat BMs in DPS. Bowmasters, at the moment, beat Marksmen in single target damage, :. they're more wanted at bosses. Iron Arrow is also stronger than Arrow Bomb, but Arrow Bomb makes up for it by having the ability to bend and stun. Bowmaster Phoenix is near useless in training, but in bosses it excels over Hawk. Sniper Eagle is near useless due to our ability to freeze. Marksman Frostprey can be used in lieu of Blizzard, but isn't controllable. Marksmen, if played properly, train just as fast (or faster in some cases) than Bowmasters.

Really, Frostprey is much more than it sounds. By freezing mobs, you can eliminate the use of Blizzard when it activates, granting higher damage dealt. It's also a given that when given a Bowmaster and Marksmen with equal equips, the Marksman will have superior Strafe damage (slightly). Snipe is helpful, though not as helpful as KMS Snipe, with a 200k damage cap and 5 second cooldown as opposed to GMS's 100k damage cap and 10 second cooldown. Pierce for Marksmen is also a very, very powerful skill, since the damage cap has been raised. It is mobile, and in KMS the charge time is only one second. Bowmasters and Marksmen are equal, with Bowmasters excelling at one thing and Marksmen at the other. Marksmen's advantages are just harder to see than Bowmasters'.

CJeeey

when the damage cap is raised to 200k each 5 second im not sure if the beat the damage per sec of a bow master.

Example at zakum.
both use a apple since thats normal at zak.
then a BM does 8 arrows a second. me with apple its 10-25k (crits included)
so i do 80k - 200k a second. (its a big range if you get 8 times 10k in a row its low, but it happens, you see all 25k's in a row to.)
in 5 seconds i can do a minimum of 450k (80k x 5) or a maximum of 1mill (200k x 5) while a Marksman only did strafe a few times his strafe should have erm 10-25k's when around the same lvl and item. and do 200k once.
then you get near 400k 500k each 5 seconds.

but for playing style. a MM has more fun using diffirent attacks at a boss.
while a BM only stands still using the same att hurricane.
and thats just what you prefer most. pierce is only good for the mobs at zakum. and does not deal that much on zakum it self when used. mostly you see the high damage on the mobs. still a MM uses strave pierce and snipe at a zak run, and a BM only hurricane xD

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