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Refute what? I said if Global Warming did exist, CO2 wouldn't be top priority, and you just confirmed that. But, if you want more gasses, off the top of my head, take Methane and CFC-12 gasses.

I can make you a list btw, if you're that adament about my rebuttle, it seems you'll do anything to not answer my other questions eh? Try, instead of answering a scientific question, have a crack at the moral question? What about countries like Africa who are already un-developed as it is, millions, possibly hundreds of millions of people in third-world countries dying because they can't afford fuel because of the green policy? Address that.

If you're so into believing everything the government tells you (yes sir, no sir, three bags four sir, and whatnot) why haven't you questioned why they haven't donated the of $161billion that they spend on terrorism (Considering terrorism only effects around 40 people on avaerage - A LOT LESS than the slaughters and concentration camps they commend btw, and 1/2 the deaths, compared to deaths caused by peanut allergies) on the development of third-world countries? "But atomslap dur guvurnmunt ere told me that al qaeda r evil n we need to hurr durr durr - n den dey told me about dis ere gulobal warmin".

MariaMariaaa

"But atomslap dur guvurnmunt ere told me that al qaeda r evil n we need to hurr durr durr - n den dey told me about dis ere gulobal warmin".

LMFAAAAOOOO

this made my night.

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Ronin

Your counter would be:
CO2 is too much
but CH4 is there too

So let's do nothing.

This is what I would call a pretty moronic way to make a bad situation worse.

I pointed out the influence of the different components in total, but you need to keep in mind, that CH4 is in no way as stable as CO2 and whilst it is theoretically more potent, it does not practically make that much a difference, in comparison.
If you are so keen on singling out one factor on the behalf of forgetting about the big picture:
That might be an okay way to do it, if it's a relevant one, which would be CO2.

Let's stay on this problem and talk it through until there is space for other issues.

I am not going to try to bring across how it can be that CH4 even though absorbing light in the exact wavelength of maximum effectiveness (0,7 ym) is not taking up as much energy because the integrative product

is just larger for CO2, even if it does not absorb at the maximum spectral energy density; This hint must do... Some of this was a question on a university exam, I had just an hour ago.

It is the way it is, just like the sky is blue for a reason, CO2 is responsible for the climatic change.
No matter how much you look for a source to prove the exact opposite;
You will not find a credible one just because you want it to exist.

@The moral question:
You are misjudging the situation.
The moral aspect does not exist and your argument that people are dieing because of not having access to oil has simple results:
Directing the focus on problems that are not only minor but also that the interest group of your argumentation has absolutely no intent of dealing with.

It's a decoy and not even a clever one.

If Malaria will totally flood Australia, people will soon stop to worry that much about oil there too.
It's not first priority.
Keeping oil cheap everywhere also can only happen in a world of illusion.
Everyone should agree to that so talking any more of it is a waste of time entirely. Once the energy problematic is solved nearly sustainable for the next couple of hundreds of years, we might bring that back to the table, but as it looks now, no one will have oil in about 50 years, making a fuzz about it is betting on a train that has left the station years ago.

@You watching too much TV:
That's your problem, I do not own a TV-set. I don't really wanna waste my time on that sort of off-topic derail nevertheless.

So you made me repeat myself.
Happy now?

On the "war on terror": It made Bush win the election. No wonder he signed it off, the American people virtually forced him to.

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Corkie

who cares,

At least it is not going to be freakin' cold, so im happy =)

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Elion

Here is an article by the creator of the weather channel.

http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemans.../38574742.html

It's a little long, but well worth the read. A one line summary: Global warming is a hoax.

I doubt it'll turn any thick heads to the truth, but the truth may as well be out there.

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power_gamer_6

TL;DR, don't believe, etc.

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Ronin

A cobbler should stick to his last...

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Xynh

Ronin, if you care to type that much about the subject, then go out and do something about it. Debating and proving your point to individuals on a gaming forum won't fix anything.

lothia

See when I see this stuff coming from a real scientist and not a weather forecaster then it will hold truth, but that would mean like a lot of major scientists.

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Elion

There -are- plenty of scientists who speak out against it and say it's BS. And from the sounds of it, all the "evidence" and "scientific background" on global warming is a bunch of BS.

You can't turn on a TV without hearing an ad saying these penis pills are "scientifically proven to work". And with a much larger foundation, these big shots are able to take "scientifically proven" to a much higher level.

John Coleman is a credible man, not just a weather forecaster.

It's really not hard to sculpt a scheme like this for the world to believe, if you've got the right backup and you're a big enough man, it's a completely possible thing to do.

But arguing with a global warming activist is like arguing with a brick wall that never shuts the **** up. That being said, guess we'll just have to endure the inconveniences caused by all the global warming bullshit and keep living while nothing happens.

Not to mention NOTHINGS going to change anyways. The efforts are useless and we're not gunna be reverting to a 3rd world country any time soon, not that it would change anything if we did.

Go ahead and point out where I'm wrong and tear apart my post with environmentalist sources, I don't really give a shit.

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