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Old 07-24-2008, 07:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by AbysmalGuilt View Post
You're right. Thanks to science we have retired folks(who would have otherwise passed away) living to the point where they can't even take care of themselves. Thanks to science the earth is being shat upon much faster than any religion could do. Thanks to science we have nuclear weapons which could very well end humanity so much better than nature itself ever could. Thanks to science there's another weapon to scare humanity into submission.(a la, science is always right. See Global Warming)

And why can you only look at the Dark Ages? You don't think there were times of ancient prosperity with a lacking of science? You don't think people can be happy closer to nature? Just because we've grown up spoiled to it, doesn't mean it would be painful to grow up without it. I love technology just as much as the next person, but don't tell me I couldn't live without it.

If creationism is such a joke, why take the time and effort to debunk it? Why care about the origin of life? What purpose does it serve? None. It doesn't help anyone to dwell on it, it won't unlock any secrets to the future.

Smug, superior complexed science worshippers are no better than self-righteous fanatics.
Oh yes, it's such a bad thing that we live longer then any time in the history of the world, instead of being killed off at 30 or 40 by plagues and diseases that we scoff at today. It's such a bad thing that people in industrial countries have everything they could want, instead of barely subsisting off of bread and rice. It's such a bad thing that we have nuclear power which, while it can be used for bad, can also be used to easily power the entire world without any pollution at all. If these are the things you consider bad, then I really have little else to say to you.

And as a sidenote, without going off-topic too much, Global Warming (Or at least the Co2 argument) is bullshit. The only thing that keeps it going are the legions of ignorant environmentalists who don't want to lose their one great hold on the political system.

And as Norrin said, you should not scoff at technology until you've spent ten or so years living alone, without any help from the outside world, in a hostile wilderness. Then, when you're starving because you lack modern agricultural advancements; sick from a myriad of diseases because you lack modern medicinal advancements; and at complete mercy of the elements without a modern shelter - then, and only then, are you entitled to scoff at technology like it's nothing.

And I suggest you look up the living conditions for your average man back in those ancient times of yours. The farther back you go, the more miserable it becomes for all but a select few. It only gets worse when organized religion comes into the picture. The ability to live completely "at peace with nature" is a modern advancement.

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It's like arguing with someone who has tried to deny the holocaust, why bother? They're idiots.
Arguing with creationists is more for outsiders benefit then actually to try and convert a creationist. As you say, they are idiots, but sadly there are masses of people who would follow them because they don't feel like thinking. At least we can reach some of them by making our arguments against creationism well-known.

EDIT: @ Moonlight...

What? The science of faith is the "working hands?" I'm sorry, but I have no idea what you're talking about. Look up the meanings of Science and Faith and then try to argue that they are compatible.
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