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cinderboy · 03-13-2009, 12:49 PM

http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2009/03...strike-player/

Tim Kretschmer, the German 17 year-old who was named as yesterday killing 15 people before taking his own life, was “good” at the online military squad game, Counter-Strike, a friend of his has told Associated Press. And a local Police chief has said that Kretschmer played the kind of videogames “typical for someone carrying out a mass shooting”.

Are videogames being blamed again for another school shooting?

Kretschmer used a 9mm Berretta pistol to kill nine girls, one boy and three women teachers at his school, before fleeing the school and killing three male passersby nearby. He died by killing himself in the middle of a firefight with Police in a car park 20 miles from the school.

The gun was his father’s, who owned 14 other firearms and was a member of a gun club. Only the Beretta was not kept locked up.

Kretschmer was a “lower than average” pupil in test scores, and “wasn’t engaged in school events”. A friend told Associated Press that he had shown her a note to his parents that “he’s suffering and can’t go on.” Friends of the gunman also described him as quiet and reserved and said he had talked of feeling “mocked” by other pupils and “ignored” by teachers.

Kretschmer conducted the killings “dressed in all black”, with worrying echoes of Dylan Harris and Eric Klebold who carried out the “Columbine massacre” in America, and the 2002 shooting of 16 by 19-year-old Robert Steinhaeuser also in Germany.

Easy access to guns, complaints of bullying and being ignored, a penchant for black clothing, enjoyment of shooter videogames – clearly none of these on their own are enough to turn someone into a killer. But that hasn’t stopped local police chief Ralf Michelfelder putting some of the blame on Counter-Strike already.

Counter-Strike, the popular online PC and console game by Valve, the makers of Left4Dead, features squads of terrorists and anti-terrorist forces taking each other on in various locations. Missions include setting and exploding or successfully defusing bombs, protecting or assassinating a “VIP” and guarding or rescuing hostages.

Cod4Sniper · 03-13-2009, 12:57 PM

Why not just blame EVERY other shooting game?
Jeez, blame the ****ing person, not the game.

EDIT: This reminded me of "MYGOT". That little video on youtube. Where this nerd keeps "hacking" and shooting him in the head, then the nerd who got his *** kicked goes into the school and kills everyone with a pistol.

Gattsu · 03-13-2009, 12:59 PM

Pfft, cant find a logical reason so they start blaming games?
Maybe the kid was just ****ed up from the start.

hobolord · 03-13-2009, 01:04 PM

everyone plays cs does that mean every ones going on a shooting rampage

Deimos · 03-13-2009, 01:29 PM

i would like to take this opportunity to point out that although video games can hardly be solely responsible for stuff like this..... there are a disproportionate number of people who play counterstrike and think guns are liek relly relly kewl.

on your average online shooter there probably isnt someone who can list 20 pages of weapons specifications from memory... but on CS there is always some jackass like that. probably wanking himself whilst shoving a silencer up his butt and reading bravo two zero.

TheWiseGuy · 03-13-2009, 01:41 PM

honestly like i said before they should make all gamers take a test and based on the results of those test they will be able to buy certain games by showing the id or submitting the id number......the test would consist of questions that show the stability of that persons mind and such.....because these stupid psycho ****fags are giving us gamers a bad name and i really dont like it

edit- and his fathers a fcking douche as well...why would he leave the gun unlocked like that...and why were the parents so unaware of the childs depression....seriously parents fcking fail in todays society

cinderboy · 03-13-2009, 01:46 PM

most parents just think that giving their child a roof over his head, food and education will be enough on their part. how many parents actually looks deeper into the relationship bonding and other psychological parts ?

masteralakdan · 03-13-2009, 02:19 PM

I think the society and the parents should be the ones to be blamed, since this kind of person exist only due to his surroundings. Blaming it to a game? I played CS alot, but it didnt cross my mind to kill people even if they act like terrorist

TheWiseGuy · 03-13-2009, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masteralakdan

I think the society and the parents should be the ones to be blamed, since this kind of person exist only due to his surroundings. Blaming it to a game? I played CS alot, but it didnt cross my mind to kill people even if they act like terrorist

..exactly..see when i play call of duty i scream at others calling them dirty chinks, filthy germans, stupid jews etc etc....but in reality i have an asian fetish...germans have cool cars..and i once dated a jew lol

Jin-Roh · 03-13-2009, 04:08 PM

Hmmm, so if you play CS you go out killing people? Good thing he dident play C&C. He would of used his over-view powers to control an army! Oh shit, we would have armor bears and cyborgs running around everywhere.

~Roh

03-13-2009, 12:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
cinderboy The Beast of the East Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Internetz Posts: 13,172 Reputation: 228	Germany school shooting linked to video games http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2009/03...strike-player/ Tim Kretschmer, the German 17 year-old who was named as yesterday killing 15 people before taking his own life, was “good” at the online military squad game, Counter-Strike, a friend of his has told Associated Press. And a local Police chief has said that Kretschmer played the kind of videogames “typical for someone carrying out a mass shooting”. Are videogames being blamed again for another school shooting? Kretschmer used a 9mm Berretta pistol to kill nine girls, one boy and three women teachers at his school, before fleeing the school and killing three male passersby nearby. He died by killing himself in the middle of a firefight with Police in a car park 20 miles from the school. The gun was his father’s, who owned 14 other firearms and was a member of a gun club. Only the Beretta was not kept locked up. Kretschmer was a “lower than average” pupil in test scores, and “wasn’t engaged in school events”. A friend told Associated Press that he had shown her a note to his parents that “he’s suffering and can’t go on.” Friends of the gunman also described him as quiet and reserved and said he had talked of feeling “mocked” by other pupils and “ignored” by teachers. Kretschmer conducted the killings “dressed in all black”, with worrying echoes of Dylan Harris and Eric Klebold who carried out the “Columbine massacre” in America, and the 2002 shooting of 16 by 19-year-old Robert Steinhaeuser also in Germany. Easy access to guns, complaints of bullying and being ignored, a penchant for black clothing, enjoyment of shooter videogames – clearly none of these on their own are enough to turn someone into a killer. But that hasn’t stopped local police chief Ralf Michelfelder putting some of the blame on Counter-Strike already. Counter-Strike, the popular online PC and console game by Valve, the makers of Left4Dead, features squads of terrorists and anti-terrorist forces taking each other on in various locations. Missions include setting and exploding or successfully defusing bombs, protecting or assassinating a “VIP” and guarding or rescuing hostages. __________________

03-13-2009, 12:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
Gattsu Shadowsworn's Sandwich Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: australia Posts: 1,867 Reputation: 19	Pfft, cant find a logical reason so they start blaming games? Maybe the kid was just **ed up from the start. __________________ I'm Jatt No Expectations... No Disappointments**

03-13-2009, 01:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
TheWiseGuy OnRPG Elite Member! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Onrpg Posts: 4,649 Reputation: 82	honestly like i said before they should make all gamers take a test and based on the results of those test they will be able to buy certain games by showing the id or submitting the id number......the test would consist of questions that show the stability of that persons mind and such.....because these stupid psycho ****fags are giving us gamers a bad name and i really dont like it edit- and his fathers a fcking douche as well...why would he leave the gun unlocked like that...and why were the parents so unaware of the childs depression....seriously parents fcking fail in todays society __________________

03-13-2009, 01:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
cinderboy The Beast of the East Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Internetz Posts: 13,172 Reputation: 228	most parents just think that giving their child a roof over his head, food and education will be enough on their part. how many parents actually looks deeper into the relationship bonding and other psychological parts ? __________________

03-13-2009, 02:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
masteralakdan McFox Sandwich Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 空 Posts: 469 Reputation: 13	I think the society and the parents should be the ones to be blamed, since this kind of person exist only due to his surroundings. Blaming it to a game? I played CS alot, but it didnt cross my mind to kill people even if they act like terrorist __________________ Click here to feed me a Rare Candy!

03-13-2009, 12:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cod4Sniper Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 710 Reputation: 12	Why not just blame EVERY other shooting game? Jeez, blame the **ing person, not the game. EDIT: This reminded me of "MYGOT". That little video on youtube. Where this nerd keeps "hacking" and shooting him in the head, then the nerd who got his * kicked goes into the school and kills everyone with a pistol.

03-13-2009, 01:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
hobolord Roon's Rogue Join Date: May 2006 Location: australia Posts: 4,310 Reputation: 68	everyone plays cs does that mean every ones going on a shooting rampage

03-13-2009, 04:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jin-Roh Phantom's Freak Join Date: May 2006 Location: Computer? Posts: 2,592 Reputation: 127	Hmmm, so if you play CS you go out killing people? Good thing he dident play C&C. He would of used his over-view powers to control an army! Oh shit, we would have armor bears and cyborgs running around everywhere. *~Roh* __________________

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