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Testeagle

You might wanna say "I" instead "we"

Besides that you're entitle to your opinion.

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frannecice_311

I'll volunteer to suicide bomb it!

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Deimos

man, bram stoker invented vampires.

the whole idea of drinking blood and turning into a bat and all those weird waistcoats is bram stokers invention. he chose those characteristics because they played upon peoples fears at the time.

people were afraid of new fields of science and the ideas they brought with them so stoker incorporated those fears into his character.

vampires are not real!!!!

the same way that badguys change in movies over the years ie: early james bond movies have like some bad*ss british accent dude or guy with a secret lair, compared to now in which you get some terrorist/activist group doing bad stuff.

badguys are created based on what people are afraid of at the time... stokers vampire was a culmination of peoples fears in the 19th century.

modern depictions of vampires are an elaboration of this, its not reaaaaaaall.

prior to 1897 vampires didnt even exist in literature!!!!!

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Oisterboy

I bet there were assholes years ago that used to believe they needed to drink blood to live.

Why is that so hard to believe? People used to also believe the earth was the center of the universe :/

Oisters 2 cents.

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Ronin

That's like saying Goethe invented Dr. Faustus and maybe the devil; that's not really true at all.
Seeing that you say "modern"; What distinct feature did he change? He just selected a couple that fit the dramatics and when you read the book, it's pretty apparent that it is assumed to be known what a Vampire is (just not required).
The whole scenario might be benefiting from being "exotic" somewhere else, but where I live is the regions where the first drafted plot was supposed to take place and it really isn't something he "invented" and just put in place at all, that would be giving him credit in a misguided way.

On the appearance on literature:
Literature as a medium was pretty irrelevant in the times before 1800 anyways, but you need to add, that you still will find much older notations.
That the collection of the oral traditions of the common people happened at those times is a purely technical aspect.
Naturally the technicalities and the medium shape the message; A somewhat unified picture of imagination appears, targeted groups shift, society changes, but that has nothing to do really with truth.

Just like the 60s made it popular to identify flowers in graves of early humans as gifts, when it's now the common thought that those pollen found were brought into the graves by mice.
Similarly the concept that the homo neanderthalensis was extinguished by the homo sapiens is an idea that was the "mental offspring" in human anthropology of the cold war times.

It really all proves nothing, it just weakens the whole historical receptions as an argument in total;

Also people were putting heavy stones on graves or sealing them otherwise for quite a long while before 1800.

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Torian

Lol'd

Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy.

Norrin Radd

Is that all you are going to do?

Tell us we're wrong, but then when we ask for arguments, give us non-sensical, unscientific (Proven), make-believe nonsense?

drawnzer54

Torian

Nowhere did I say vampires existing is true or false, I just found it quite funny that he believed that vampires were created by Bram Stroker. Chill out, sounds like there's a stick shoved far up your A-hole that's been annoying you. . People have their own individual beliefs. No matter how much you e-bate, they wont ever change their mind. At the moment, providing your facts and figures and whatnot are proving to be an entertaining read for those sitting on the sidelines, and preaching to the choir for those that choose not to believe.

To each his own.~

kait0s

I kinda cried.


Anyway, i think the books were alright but the movies are ripping it all apart.

And If the Jedi can have one, why not Cullenism?

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