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JSD870 · 06-16-2009, 06:29 PM

Whats good? Im new here..

Well I really want to start to make mmorpg's! Yeah yeah I know it sounds simple to say (mm) but yeah thats what I want to do. Im 15 years old and I have made game but not mmorpg's. My first engine I used was rpgtoolkit and the next engine I used was RPGMXP! Well I want to make an mmorpg I want to know where to start? Well I have ask people that question and 95% of the people I ask say "learn programming if you dont you will not have a chance at making one"! Well okay! I hear ya man!. . So I want to start programming. I want to make 2d mmorpg's! Yeah I do! But I dont want to use an engine? Is it possible to do that programming? It seems kind of hard when I did programming for toolkit but I willing to learn now since I have ALOT of free time! Well let me ask this question to you, Do you make an engine and then make a game or do you just code the game? I looked at some posts that has both of them in them. Well I would think it would be easier to just kind of code the game. So how would I start to just code a little game like tetris? I want to start from the bottom and work my way up so I want to learn how to make the easiest games first and then after I get all that down I want to start my mmorpg.

Well since I dont any programs out here what is the most easiest, understandable programming langauge to learn to make a game like tetris? And what programs to make browser based games? And then move my way up with the same programming language?

Thanks for reading hope you can start me off to a great start in programming!

JSD870

Eriond · 06-16-2009, 08:39 PM

Please don't center your posts. Just a friendly hint. It makes it a mess to read.

Anyway. I found C to be pretty easy to understand, and it gives you a real appreciation for how a programming language works at a low level, something that you don't quite get the same way with a scripting language.

If you want to learn C, there's a post here: http://www.onrpg.com/boards/1215.html.

However, Java can work in browsers, and C can't. If you want to learn Java, go here: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/, and then go to Getting Started.

C is slightly faster, and I like the look of it more than I like Java, but they're both fine languages, though most major games these days are written in C++ (which is C with more features), not Java.

Z0MBiE · 06-17-2009, 08:54 AM

if C seems too tough, try perl or python to start with.

both have a few tutorials on making games lying around the interwebs.

JSD870 · 06-21-2009, 10:22 PM

Well what is the easiest programming language for browser based games?

Eriond · 06-21-2009, 10:42 PM

Browser based games, is something like PHP, MySQL and Javascript, all of which you can learn here: http://www.w3schools.com/, though some of the more advanced stuff you might have to get from elsewhere.

JSD870 · 06-22-2009, 01:17 AM

What you mean by more of the advanced stuff I will have to get somewhere else? Can you explain that to me please?

Eriond · 06-22-2009, 02:01 AM

Well, w3schools doesn't have everything that JavaScript, PHP or mySQL can do. They're mainly introductory tutorials. With those tutorials you should be able to get a text-based browser game working.

If you wanna get something with moving 2D graphics, you'd need another resource on JavaScript, or maybe you'd migrate to Flash or Java.

JSD870 · 06-22-2009, 04:46 AM

Well yes I hate text-based games!! I really do!. . So what language would be very easy for me to make 2d moving graphics?

Eriond · 06-22-2009, 05:32 AM

Well, I suppose you could learn ActionScript for Flash. I think there's also a tutorial for it on w3schools. I've heard it can be online, but I don't think it can handle more than a few connections. I honestly don't know though, but it should be fairly easy for you to do some animations and graphics with it.

JSD870 · 06-22-2009, 02:56 PM

Ok!. .STILL IN MY NEWBIE STAGE. . I thought flash was a prgramming language or is ActionScript a programming language? I dont understand that.
And dont flash games be side-scrolling? I want it to be 2d moving graphics like Zelda or Final Fantasy(just examples)! Can ActionScript or Flash(or whatever I dont know

)do that to were I can have it like Zelda moving graphics?

06-16-2009, 06:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
JSD870 Marios's Mustache Wax Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11 Reputation: 10	I Want To Start Programming! Where Should I Start? Whats good? Im new here.. Well I really want to start to make mmorpg's! Yeah yeah I know it sounds simple to say (mm) but yeah thats what I want to do. Im 15 years old and I have made game but not mmorpg's. My first engine I used was rpgtoolkit and the next engine I used was RPGMXP! Well I want to make an mmorpg I want to know where to start? Well I have ask people that question and 95% of the people I ask say "learn programming if you dont you will not have a chance at making one"! Well okay! I hear ya man!. . So I want to start programming. I want to make 2d mmorpg's! Yeah I do! But I dont want to use an engine? Is it possible to do that programming? It seems kind of hard when I did programming for toolkit but I willing to learn now since I have ALOT of free time! Well let me ask this question to you, Do you make an engine and then make a game or do you just code the game? I looked at some posts that has both of them in them. Well I would think it would be easier to just kind of code the game. So how would I start to just code a little game like tetris? I want to start from the bottom and work my way up so I want to learn how to make the easiest games first and then after I get all that down I want to start my mmorpg. Well since I dont any programs out here what is the most easiest, understandable programming langauge to learn to make a game like tetris? And what programs to make browser based games? And then move my way up with the same programming language? Thanks for reading hope you can start me off to a great start in programming! JSD870 Last edited by JSD870; 06-16-2009 at 06:58 PM. Reason: Left out something

06-16-2009, 08:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
Eriond Crumbly, but Good Join Date: May 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,618 Reputation: 57	Please don't center your posts. Just a friendly hint. It makes it a mess to read. Anyway. I found C to be pretty easy to understand, and it gives you a real appreciation for how a programming language works at a low level, something that you don't quite get the same way with a scripting language. If you want to learn C, there's a post here: http://www.onrpg.com/boards/1215.html. However, Java can work in browsers, and C can't. If you want to learn Java, go here: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/, and then go to Getting Started. C is slightly faster, and I like the look of it more than I like Java, but they're both fine languages, though most major games these days are written in C++ (which is C with more features), not Java. __________________ Outsider 3D Space Action Shooter/RPG in Development http://www.youtube.com/user/outsidergame

06-21-2009, 10:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
Eriond Crumbly, but Good Join Date: May 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,618 Reputation: 57	Browser based games, is something like PHP, MySQL and Javascript, all of which you can learn here: http://www.w3schools.com/, though some of the more advanced stuff you might have to get from elsewhere. __________________ Outsider 3D Space Action Shooter/RPG in Development http://www.youtube.com/user/outsidergame

06-22-2009, 02:01 AM	#7 (permalink)
Eriond Crumbly, but Good Join Date: May 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,618 Reputation: 57	Well, w3schools doesn't have everything that JavaScript, PHP or mySQL can do. They're mainly introductory tutorials. With those tutorials you should be able to get a text-based browser game working. If you wanna get something with moving 2D graphics, you'd need another resource on JavaScript, or maybe you'd migrate to Flash or Java. __________________ Outsider 3D Space Action Shooter/RPG in Development http://www.youtube.com/user/outsidergame

06-22-2009, 05:32 AM	#9 (permalink)
Eriond Crumbly, but Good Join Date: May 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,618 Reputation: 57	Well, I suppose you could learn ActionScript for Flash. I think there's also a tutorial for it on w3schools. I've heard it can be online, but I don't think it can handle more than a few connections. I honestly don't know though, but it should be fairly easy for you to do some animations and graphics with it. __________________ Outsider 3D Space Action Shooter/RPG in Development http://www.youtube.com/user/outsidergame

06-17-2009, 08:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
Z0MBiE Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,796 Reputation: 221	if C seems too tough, try perl or python to start with. both have a few tutorials on making games lying around the interwebs.

06-21-2009, 10:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
JSD870 Marios's Mustache Wax Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11 Reputation: 10	Well what is the easiest programming language for browser based games?

06-22-2009, 01:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
JSD870 Marios's Mustache Wax Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11 Reputation: 10	What you mean by more of the advanced stuff I will have to get somewhere else? Can you explain that to me please?

06-22-2009, 04:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
JSD870 Marios's Mustache Wax Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11 Reputation: 10	Well yes I hate text-based games!! I really do!. . So what language would be very easy for me to make 2d moving graphics?

06-22-2009, 02:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
JSD870 Marios's Mustache Wax Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11 Reputation: 10	Ok!. .STILL IN MY NEWBIE STAGE. . I thought flash was a prgramming language or is ActionScript a programming language? I dont understand that. And dont flash games be side-scrolling? I want it to be 2d moving graphics like Zelda or Final Fantasy(just examples)! Can ActionScript or Flash(or whatever I dont know)do that to were I can have it like Zelda moving graphics?

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