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Tax · 07-04-2009, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dreakon

There have been at least 4 games that have taken Maple's style and added some tweaks to the formula, and they've all failed miserably. What makes Wonderking even remotely better than two games (DFO and Dragonica) that at least try to be different... and one of which is a massive success overseas?

Your signature just screams bias.

Maple Story did not invent the 2D-Side Scrolling genre. There were many other MMORPGs like it before it too.

Dreakon · 07-04-2009, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tax

Your signature just screams bias.

Maple Story did not invent the 2D-Side Scrolling genre. There were many other MMORPGs like it before it too.

I won't lie, I'm ridiculously biased towards DFO. What matter does that make though? Have a conversation with me, don't point out things that are irrelevant. No ones going to argue with me that there are a lot of Maple clones out there, and Wonderking certainly LOOKS like one. No ones going to argue with me either that DnF is massive overseas. They released DnF cellphones for god sakes.

Maple Story didn't invent 2D side-scrolling games, obviously. I credit that to games about 20 years ago.

However, I would like to hear about these "many other games" that invented 2D sidescrolling MMORPG's because Maple is definitely the biggest and honestly the first I've ever seen (I was around in it's very first beta, havent really played since). And please don't shove anything like "Dragongem technically went into beta in korea a month before it" or whatever nonsense down my throat. Maple Story clearly had the most success from the very start, whatever it did, it actually did it right.

Tax · 07-04-2009, 04:03 AM

Twas the first in North America. From what I know, Ghost online and Windslayer both came out in Korea before Maple Story even entered beta.

Dreakon · 07-04-2009, 04:05 AM

Why would I care about versions I can't play?

Tax · 07-04-2009, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dreakon

Why would I care about versions I can't play?

Then why do you care how popular DnF is in other countries?

Dreakon · 07-04-2009, 04:09 AM

Because it gives some perspective about how well the game could do in North America. If in a massive pool of korean MMORPG's, that game sits at the top by such a margin, there has to be something going for it.

Like I mentioned, it's like World of Warcraft. People can hate it all they want, but it's at the top of the commercial MMORPG market for a reason. The game is damn good.

Sukiriso · 07-04-2009, 04:15 AM

I'd have to say DnF. It brings something unique to the table. I played maplestory alot and I really hate it now and I do not want another game that is not a clone but just another game like Maplestory, Latale, Windslayer.

And eww I really hate dragonica. I don't even know why it is just so boring to me. I really like the arcadish DnF looks. Only time will tell though :o

Tax · 07-04-2009, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dreakon

Because it gives some perspective about how well the game could do in North America. If in a massive pool of korean MMORPG's, that game sits at the top by such a margin, there has to be something going for it.

Like I mentioned, it's like World of Warcraft. People can hate it all they want, but it's at the top of the commercial MMORPG market for a reason. The game is damn good.

But the Asian and American markets are entirely different!

One's bigger and has a larger variety of appealing western games and the other has game that only appeal to a select few.

blablabity · 07-04-2009, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dreakon

Because it gives some perspective about how well the game could do in North America. If in a massive pool of korean MMORPG's, that game sits at the top by such a margin, there has to be something going for it.

Like I mentioned, it's like World of Warcraft. People can hate it all they want, but it's at the top of the commercial MMORPG market for a reason. The game is damn good.

I haven't seen a single person on this site say they hate Dungeon Fighter

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Keep in mind, the comments section on the DFO site is probably filled with people coming over from the broken and tattered chinese version of DnF, just like the surge of chinese players to the official Nexon forums for DFO when they first opened. It doesn't have an IP ban like the game hopefully will. Broken english, hackers and botters abound... why would they leave meaningful comments?

Not to mention North Americans have a tendency to sound like idiots, but I do think people trying to immigrate from other versions of the game is the main reason for the stupid comments.

Dungeon Fighter Online will kill those games (at least by all means it should). Dragonica is/will be pretty good, but it looks so clunky. Wonderking looks almost exactly like Maple Story with a few tweaks, trying to ride of Maples success. It's just a game for the tools who refuse to play the "popular game" because it "sucks", kind of like the people who say World of Warcraft is the worst MMORPG ever made and swear by Runes of Magic.

Neither of those games are all that good. They don't bring anything new to the table. Then again I'm sick of vanilla MMORPG's, only thing I can stand now is ones with combo systems. I like spamming buttons....

matiasdk · 07-04-2009, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dreakon

I won't lie, I'm ridiculously biased towards DFO. What matter does that make though? Have a conversation with me, don't point out things that are irrelevant. No ones going to argue with me that there are a lot of Maple clones out there, and Wonderking certainly LOOKS like one. No ones going to argue with me either that DnF is massive overseas. They released DnF cellphones for god sakes.

Maple Story didn't invent 2D side-scrolling games, obviously. I credit that to games about 20 years ago.

However, I would like to hear about these "many other games" that invented 2D sidescrolling MMORPG's because Maple is definitely the biggest and honestly the first I've ever seen (I was around in it's very first beta, havent really played since). And please don't shove anything like "Dragongem technically went into beta in korea a month before it" or whatever nonsense down my throat. Maple Story clearly had the most success from the very start, whatever it did, it actually did it right.

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07-04-2009, 04:15 AM	#97 (permalink)
Sukiriso Pellet Eater Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 577 Reputation: 17	I'd have to say DnF. It brings something unique to the table. I played maplestory alot and I really hate it now and I do not want another game that is not a clone but just another game like Maplestory, Latale, Windslayer. And eww I really hate dragonica. I don't even know why it is just so boring to me. I really like the arcadish DnF looks. Only time will tell though :o