Go Back   OnRPG Free MMORPG Forums > Free Games > Free MMO and MMORPG

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-08-2009, 05:54 PM   #21 (permalink)
Lothia's Lurker
 
neothaka's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,768
Reputation: 26
Default

supports are not all powerfull and can be taken down fairly easy if you work together a bit. Despite that, yes i admit they are a bit too strong while the recon is a bit too weak (it has no real benefits, as night vision is virtually pointless in any of the current maps).

The weakness of a support class is that it cannot run and cannot see through cloaks. So when dealing with supports as either a reckon or an assault your best bet is to run and cloak so he loses you on target.

I've had about 4 succesful support takedowns as a recon but sprint cloaking all the way behind him and shooting him in the back of the head.
This of course, only works if there is no assault or whatever around since an assaults motion tracker can see through a cloak.

@stabkiller: CTG is just an addon to standard TDM. You don't NEED to capture the ghost to win. You can win perfectly fine by just seeking out every enemy and shooting him. Capping the ghost is an alternative method to win of course, but is not as easy.
We usually use the ghost primarely as a tactical advantage as to knowing where everyone is, rather than a tool to quick win the match (as there are usually Dropzone campers anyway).

@paramine: the fact that you don't have crosshairs by default is simply to increase the level of tactics (primarely compared to CS(:S) where you can just run and gun). Having no crosshair prevents you just spray'n praying.
Slow turning while aiming, well, you are still human after all. I personally am also still yet to see a person do a 360 turn in less than a second
__________________


"I wish my lawn was emo, so it would cut itself."
neothaka is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2009, 06:29 PM   #22 (permalink)
Roon's Rogue
 
Paladuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: The Pond
Posts: 4,213
Reputation: 256
Default

Yeah it's nigh impossible for a Recon to take down a Support head-to-head, all other things being equal. There have been plenty of instances where Recons have gotten the jump on me I was able to turn, face them, and blow them away before they killed me.

But really, it should be that way. Speed, health and abilities are factors that have been manipulated to balance the game. Recons shouldn't go toe to toe with the other classes.
__________________

Paladuck is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2009, 07:21 PM   #23 (permalink)
OnRPG Elite Member!
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,757
Reputation: 26
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladuck View Post
Yeah it's nigh impossible for a Recon to take down a Support head-to-head, all other things being equal. There have been plenty of instances where Recons have gotten the jump on me I was able to turn, face them, and blow them away before they killed me.

But really, it should be that way. Speed, health and abilities are factors that have been manipulated to balance the game. Recons shouldn't go toe to toe with the other classes.
True, but Recon should be the one with thermal if you ask me. The only have cloak and speed and you can go assault for that and still get the hp and armor bonus. The thing is that Recon is highly underpowered. Most people don't care for the speed boost(Since the game is still pretty fast paced regardless even if it's a tactical shooter you can get gunned down, it's not Arma or something and you can't aim as quickly due to the focus on weapon motion and realism. ).

Recon might not be able to take classes head on but their armanent selection does not really reflect that. I mean if you're trying to say they should just be a support class....doesn't that defeat the purpose of the actual support class?

Quote:
The weakness of a support class is that it cannot run and cannot see through cloaks. So when dealing with supports as either a reckon or an assault your best bet is to run and cloak so he loses you on target.
Okay, I can't say I tested it completely but I noticed most players tend to hop around as Recon making it very easy to see through cloak. The game doesn't encourage you to be very slow and play it like Splinter Cell when you're recon. It's very easy to see recons despite cloak.

Quote:
I've had about 4 succesful support takedowns as a recon but sprint cloaking all the way behind him and shooting him in the back of the head.
This of course, only works if there is no assault or whatever around since an assaults motion tracker can see through a cloak.
You're lucky, I plugged a whole magazine into a support from behind and he still didn't go down.

Quote:
@stabkiller: CTG is just an addon to standard TDM. You don't NEED to capture the ghost to win. You can win perfectly fine by just seeking out every enemy and shooting him. Capping the ghost is an alternative method to win of course, but is not as easy.
Yeah, but with the mode being called Capture the Ghost, it's clearly trying to encourage people to play it that way so people do. I think a TDM(That is respawn when you die) would be great. Alot of maps suit this style.


Anyway, I'm just pointing out some problems it in no way means the mod is bad. Every game has problems. This one is a great game but it has some IMO crippling problems if they don't fix it. The community is eventually going to grow around these and it'll cause more whining if they don't change it ASAP.

Last edited by Stabkiller0; 07-08-2009 at 07:24 PM.
Stabkiller0 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2009, 07:43 PM   #24 (permalink)
Roon's Rogue
 
Paladuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: The Pond
Posts: 4,213
Reputation: 256
Default

Thermal is pretty overpowered in my opinion. I dunno if anyone should have it, lol. It allows you to pop out and spot any and all enemies in like a second.
__________________

Paladuck is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2009, 07:50 PM   #25 (permalink)
Olpah's Object
 
Paladin Catling's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Earth
Posts: 2,736
Reputation: 154
Default

I like support class the best. I am really enjoying this game, owning everyone
__________________
Currently best in:
Mabinogi
TF2
Paladin Catling is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2009, 01:40 PM   #26 (permalink)
Link's a Hippie!
 
SR-71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 677
Reputation: 47
Default

Bump, due to this game being ridiculously ace.
__________________
Back to school shopping breaking your spirit, Join Jackthreads "Prices so cheap, stella DEF. got her groove back"
(50%-80% URBAN clothing - Invite Only)? Enter your email here. (Original Onrpg JackThreads Inviter)
SR-71 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2009, 04:18 PM   #27 (permalink)
A Shrubbery
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 804
Reputation: 11
Send a message via MSN to xMilitia
Default

Not played it in ages really. Never got the grip of it.
__________________


Please check out my PC gaming channel which features games such as Fallen Earth and Lead and Gold! More to come soon - http://www.youtube.com/user/T3hPCGamer
xMilitia is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2009, 08:20 PM   #28 (permalink)
Gabriel's Guardian
 
boinker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Do you really want to know?
Posts: 4,335
Reputation: 57
Send a message via AIM to boinker Send a message via MSN to boinker Send a message via Yahoo to boinker
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SR-71 View Post
Bump, due to this game being ridiculously ace.
I'll be downloading it in a few, since you bumped it, your playing with me :]
__________________
boinker is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2009, 06:19 PM   #29 (permalink)
Pipster's Punk
 
Torian's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 2,416
Reputation: 80
Default

Loving this game to bits, even though I'm sucking quite a bit ;D. But gradually got a hang of the controls and shit.
__________________
Scavengers. Trespassers. Adventurers. Loners. Killers. Explorers. Robbers.
Torian is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2009, 07:51 PM   #30 (permalink)
Pellet Eater
 
Phoenixfencer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 598
Reputation: 12
Default

Okay, probably a stupid question. Do I have to have HL2 to play this or will any source engine game do cause I have portal.
__________________

Phoenixfencer is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 07:13 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.5.2
OnRPG, Copyright ©2003-2011, Game Entertainment Enterprises