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Bacn · 07-06-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by vi3tshiiet

So theres a clone for mmorpg..
A clone for FPS..
Now we need one for RTS..

Every RTS is a clone of Red Alert!

Back in the day everybody I knew referred to RTS games as "similar to Command and Conquer" before we learned of the phrase "RTS".

livejamie · 07-06-2009, 11:32 AM

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Here's a shovel if you'd like to continue to dig your hole:

Bacn · 07-06-2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by livejamie

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You know, it's very easy to cut out generic fight sequences from one game's trailers and compare it to another generic action sequence. Especially when one of the games have 7 trailers worth of generic fights. You could make that video with almost any game replacing HAVE. Not to mention all the other footage that the maker of that video ignored. That video doesn't prove anything. It's just cutting out select footage from a large amount of trailers in order to match it up with HAVE's trailer while ignoring all the other content that doesn't match up.

It's like a conspiracy theory for idiots who scream "WoW clone" at every opportunity.

ChickenDewd21 · 07-06-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by livejamie

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;/ I just don't see the resemblance.

Neebus · 07-06-2009, 12:04 PM

Yeah, even the music sounded like it was from TF2. The actual gameplay didn't look as shitty as most Counter-Strike ripoffs and the graphics actually look like they weren't designed around a Voodoo 2.

I'd be willing to check it out though, the concept of toys ****in' each other up is neat and you really can't have too much TF2, Korean clone or not. Not too keen on the animu dolls as the other toys were preferable design wise(plus they were colored according to team).

Hoping for a kung fu death grip ala the heavy's boxing gloves, I also hope they go full on and do "meet the" videos, achievements, and weapon packs. Missing the spy and engy tho, boo on that.

Would be nice as a TF2 mod. Probably more accepted as one too.

Buy_Poe · 07-06-2009, 12:21 PM

Still, it looks pretty fun!

But...CLONE CLONE CONE ! >:O

Elegy · 07-06-2009, 04:35 PM

The sniper seems OP :S

Orpheus · 07-06-2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Elegy

The sniper seems OP :S

That's what I got from the video as well. ;|
Scout Haruhi killed what, one loli?
Then sniper goth loli comes and kills the entire team.

iMicro · 07-06-2009, 05:46 PM

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The girl with the minigun(by the way, miniguns and gatling guns are 2 different things did a large sweeping motion with her gun. The heavy has never done anything such as that. But that's irrelevant, BECAUSE TEAM FORTRESS 2 DID NOT INVENT MINIGUNS. COUNTLESS GAMES HAVE HAD MINIGUNS BEFORE TEAM FORTRESS 2. Also, THE SNIPER IS ACTING JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER SNIPER IN VIDEO GAME HISTORY. TEAM FORTRESS 2 DID NOT INVENT SNIPERS EITHER. The girl with the baseball bat showed no indication that she was moving faster then anyone else. But that is also irrelevant, BECAUSE TEAM FORTRESS 2 DID NOT INVENT BASEBALL BATS. And the robot with the grenade launcher doesn't have a bandage over his eye. He has metal plating over his eye. Do you know why he has metal plating over his eye? Because the developers were trying to portray him as psychotic! That's also why he has a white teeth pattern on his face and elongated red eye. Please look at more then 1 feature of the character before instantly saying "LOLDEMOMAN".

Oh my god, you're right! Surely Valve weren't the ones to invent the minigun and baseball bat!
But they were the first to implement all those weapons into classes. I wonder how they chose the weapon for the scout-like character, they probably came up with a list of melee weapons then did some dice-rolling right? They could have chose 100s of different melee weapons, it just had to be an aluminum bat, and the class using it just had to have a double jump right? Stop being ignorant and open your eyes.

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-It's a cartoon style action figure, hence it looks like a soldier. The soldier is a soldier, hence he looks like a soldier. There's a resemblance because they're based off the same idea.
-Games have had baseball bats as melee weapons before. And the running animation is far from "exactly the same". The girl doesn't hold the bat behind her, like the scout. But that's irrelevant, because the animations should look the same. Otherwise that would mean one of the animations didn't know what running looked like. (all running animations look the same?)
-Or the glowing stars from Mario. Or that sparkly thing from Sonic. invulnerability isn't exactly a new concept.
-I've already talked about the look of the robot, but I agree that the grenades look nearly identical from the grenades in Team Fortress 2. But unless someone else can come up with a new way to design cartoony grenades, I could care less.
-There's a reason that the health regen items have the + symbol. A red(and sometimes green) + symbol is always used to convey that health is being gained. It's a common gameplay choice that's been around LONG BEFORE TEAM FORTRESS 2. But that's also irrelevant, because the partical effects from the healing items at the medigun don't look anything alike.
-Maybe that's because the sniper in Team Fortress 2 IS JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER SNIPER IN VIDEO GAME HISTORY. Well, aside from the Australian accent..... and the jars of piss he throws at people.
-The art styles and technical capabilities for the games are nowhere close and the music in HAVE's trailer is nothing more then generic action music. Not to mention it bares very little resemblance to the music in Team Fortress

Ok, now you're just denying the obvious. I'd like you to name a game that was class based with a scout/heavy/demo/soldier before TF in 1996, or to be more specific, name a game with a class that had a baseball bat, ran fast, and double jumped, and a class with a guy that shot pipe bombs out and had one eye. The classes share an obvious resemblance in appearance, the soldier could have looked a lot different, the demo is a clear ripoff. You can keep lying to yourself though, as for the sniper, what is with the "HEAD SHOT" every time you HS someone? Does this not remind of of the green CRITICAL HIT when you shoot someone in the head?(what other games have big green letters that appear on your screen after you hs someone?). So it's not a direct 100% ripoff, but it has borrowed multiple elements from TF2, and saying you see no resemblance other than the grenades is just stupid.

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The only that that was "borrowed" from Team Fortress 2 is the grenade design. Other then that it's just an over-the-top shooter with generic weapons and inspired by the countless player-made giant house maps and those stupid army men games.

Ohh ok, so the one eyed Demoman was all just a coincidence, I see. Every game has a one eyed demoman nowadays.

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No, the point to Team Fortress 2 was for it to be fun. The reason there are so few automatic weapons is because every assault rifle shoots the same as every other and filling the game with them would take away from a lot of the distinction from the classes.

You basically just repeated what I said.

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@iMicro; your uber cool for calling somebody a noob.

Someone failed to detect my sarcasm there. Even though it's pretty much true.
Incase you broke your last one:

Paladin Catling · 07-06-2009, 05:52 PM

Anybody denying that this is a total copy of tf2, just lost face.

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07-06-2009, 12:04 PM	#55 (permalink)
Neebus SuperKenshin's Servent Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,072 Reputation: 33	Yeah, even the music sounded like it was from TF2. The actual gameplay didn't look as shitty as most Counter-Strike ripoffs and the graphics actually look like they weren't designed around a Voodoo 2. I'd be willing to check it out though, the concept of toys ****in' each other up is neat and you really can't have too much TF2, Korean clone or not. Not too keen on the animu dolls as the other toys were preferable design wise(plus they were colored according to team). Hoping for a kung fu death grip ala the heavy's boxing gloves, I also hope they go full on and do "meet the" videos, achievements, and weapon packs. Missing the spy and engy tho, boo on that. Would be nice as a TF2 mod. Probably more accepted as one too.

07-06-2009, 12:21 PM	#56 (permalink)
Buy_Poe Fat Bowser Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 198 Reputation: 11	Still, it looks pretty fun! But...CLONE CLONE CONE ! >:O

07-06-2009, 04:35 PM	#57 (permalink)
Elegy Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,446 Reputation: 28	The sniper seems OP :S