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soulalchemie · 07-06-2009, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Teddyoso

I do, I agree with you, I do look at both sides, I'm a quarter on it's side. I understand what your saying.

This was just full anger, if you read more then just the original post, you'll see that I can agree on more sides then one, how about you calm down?

Lmfao. Agreed.

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Originally Posted by timeb0mb

Yes I play MMOs. I quit when I realize this game is more work then fun.

Another good point! I think I play mmo's in the same fashion you do. 8D

Kashis · 07-06-2009, 01:52 AM

I don't know why people complain about grind considering some of the same have played some mmo's for years. They could have used a portion of the time they spent playing a game when they hit the cap a few years ago and used it reach it in another instead of spending those years, here, complaining about the oh so horrible rates. In other words, some people can spend years playing a game at the cap, but not spend years playing a game to reach the cap. Why?

That baffles me more than people actually complaining about rates because I know some people really don't have a lot of free time to sit around playing each day or everyday. But for the ones that do, what exactly is the problem when you spend the same amount of time playing something else anyway?

FireRage · 07-06-2009, 01:54 AM

I hate it when pele complain about grind in general. Grind is basically
what keeps you modivated into getting a high lvl. It isn't about the finish line, its about the journey getting to the finish line! I just wish some games had some lower lvl content rather than focusing on the high lvls, but that is just me ^.^

timeb0mb · 07-06-2009, 01:56 AM

@Kashis Yes people who player 1 hour a day 5 days a week shouldn't be complaining about much at all... but they do... and MMO developers should listen. There should be at least 1 or 2 MMOs out there that fit these people's wants/needs... they are right in some sense, it sucks when you love MMOs but all of them you have to actually be on several hours farming/grinding, 7 days a week to keep up with the rest of the crowd... and they have a life, jobs, perhaps a gf/spouse, and perhaps kids... they just can't keep up with the crowd, thus killing the game for them. There hopefully will be some games meeting these people's wants/needs soon enough... because sometimes casual MMOs like Free Realms just don't cut it. You want that feeling where it takes skill to win, not time.

Evlesoa · 07-06-2009, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Teddyoso

I do, I agree with you, I do look at both sides, I'm a quarter on it's side. I understand what your saying.

This was just full anger, if you read more then just the original post, you'll see that I can agree on more sides then one, how about you calm down? I don't agree on what only I say, make a real response without the rudeness. Again love seeing people's reactions and responses to what I type, not in a mean getting a laugh out of it way, but a way that I like to see what other minds think since I can't see em for myself.

Oh Mr. Psychologist. Don't get me started on anger. Online? anger? LOL. Don't make me laugh at your petty analysis of behavior online. You know nothing of anger and rage. Thank you for feeding trolls though, I can clearly see the "This was just full of anger" line as food for thought.

Seriously, don't judge anger by words. Judge anger by expression.

Teddyoso · 07-06-2009, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by soulalchemie

Lmfao. Agreed.

Just hoping you read my edit too.

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Originally Posted by Evlesoa

Oh Mr. Psychologist. Don't get me started on anger. Online? anger? LOL. Don't make me laugh at your petty analysis of behavior online. You know nothing of anger and rage. Thank you for feeding trolls though, I can clearly see the "This was just full of anger" line as food for thought.

Seriously, don't judge anger by words. Judge anger by expression.

Wow, sorry but right now i can't think of a way to side with someone with a response where you bring in your personal problems of anger and can't settle down about my first post, which like I said I can side with others opinions. I'll leave it at that.

Evlesoa · 07-06-2009, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Teddyoso

Just hoping you read my edit too.

Wow, sorry but right now i can't think of a way to side with someone with a response where you bring in your personal problems of anger and can't settle down about my first post, which like I said I can side with others opinions. I'll leave it at that.

Go screw yourself with your anger. I put out my opinion and you flame it and rape it. Thanks a lot jerk. Stop replying and STFU. No one asked for your hostile response to what I said, asshole. I don't have personal problems, I have a problem with you being a wise guy and going off topic.

raged · 07-06-2009, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Evlesoa

Go screw yourself with your anger. I put out my opinion and you flame it and rape it. Thanks a lot jerk. Stop replying and STFU. No one asked for your hostile response to what I said, asshole. I don't have personal problems, I have a problem with you being a wise guy and going off topic.

hilarious

Arri · 07-06-2009, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FireRage

I hate it when pele complain about grind in general. Grind is basically
what keeps you modivated into getting a high lvl. It isn't about the finish line, its about the journey getting to the finish line! I just wish some games had some lower lvl content rather than focusing on the high lvls, but that is just me ^.^

don't know what planet you're from, but having to kill 50000000000000000000000 enemies to level once doesn't make me think "OMG SO AWESOME I MUST GET TO THE NEXT LEVEL, THEN I'LL HAVE TO KILL 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 ENEMIES INSTEAD!"

I'm the same as others. The moment the game forces me to grind 60%+ exp because the company got lazy and decided to stop giving quests for more than one level I stop.

I also don't care when people say "OMG you quit in the boring part! It gets a lot better!" because the way I see it: If a game has a boring "tutorial" (usually levels 1-10 or 1-20) that doesn't keep me interested in the game long enough to get out, theres no point in playing.

FireRage · 07-06-2009, 02:14 AM

Yeah.. he more you kill the better the finish..

07-06-2009, 01:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
Kashis OnRPG Elite Member! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 4,680 Reputation: 145	I don't know why people complain about grind considering some of the same have played some mmo's for years. They could have used a portion of the time they spent playing a game when they hit the cap a few years ago and used it reach it in another instead of spending those years, here, complaining about the oh so horrible rates. In other words, some people can spend years playing a game at the cap, but not spend years playing a game to reach the cap. Why? That baffles me more than people actually complaining about rates because I know some people really don't have a lot of free time to sit around playing each day or everyday. But for the ones that do, what exactly is the problem when you spend the same amount of time playing something else anyway? __________________ "Rules do not exist to bind you, they exist so you may know your freedoms" "Death is blind. It comes for all souls regardless of their worth (or lack thereof)." Be careful of what you say, tomorrow or today, for the words you now speak, may become the poison your enemies later seek; truth http://myanimelist.net/animelist/Kashis Last edited by Kashis; 07-06-2009 at 02:02 AM.

07-06-2009, 01:54 AM	#13 (permalink)
FireRage A Shrubbery Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 815 Reputation: 13	I hate it when pele complain about grind in general. Grind is *basically* what keeps you modivated into getting a high lvl. It isn't about the finish line, its about the journey getting to the finish line! I just wish some games had some lower lvl content rather than focusing on the high lvls, but that is just me ^.^ __________________ Currently Playing- Ran World- lvl 20 dex swordsman CrossFire- Not sure what exact rank. DFO- Lv 18 Monk Waiting for: Allods, 2012..

07-06-2009, 02:14 AM	#20 (permalink)
FireRage A Shrubbery Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 815 Reputation: 13	Yeah.. he more you kill the better the finish.. __________________ Currently Playing- Ran World- lvl 20 dex swordsman CrossFire- Not sure what exact rank. DFO- Lv 18 Monk Waiting for: Allods, 2012..

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07-06-2009, 01:56 AM	#14 (permalink)
timeb0mb Banned Join Date: May 2009 Location: USA. Unified Sarcastic Anal... something... Posts: 591 Reputation: 9	@Kashis Yes people who player 1 hour a day 5 days a week shouldn't be complaining about much at all... but they do... and MMO developers should listen. There should be at least 1 or 2 MMOs out there that fit these people's wants/needs... they are right in some sense, it sucks when you love MMOs but all of them you have to actually be on several hours farming/grinding, 7 days a week to keep up with the rest of the crowd... and they have a life, jobs, perhaps a gf/spouse, and perhaps kids... they just can't keep up with the crowd, thus killing the game for them. There hopefully will be some games meeting these people's wants/needs soon enough... because sometimes casual MMOs like Free Realms just don't cut it. You want that feeling where it takes skill to win, not time.