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Xau-Fong · 08-02-2006, 05:36 PM

Of course he's stupid, thats why they hired him afterall.

The guy behind however, is awsome.♪

Croix · 08-02-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Xau-Fong

Of course he's stupid, thats why they hired him afterall.

The guy behind however, is awsome.♪

He didnt get "hired", he got elected. Its not the same as walking into the whitehouse and handing someone your job application.

WindrunnerX · 08-02-2006, 09:01 PM

The thing is that Saddam may be a terroist in Iraq, but HE DID NOT ****ING BLOW UP THE TWIN TOWERS.

The original reason that we went to war and we Americans supported it was to capture Osama bin Laden and eradicate Al Queda!!!!! 5 years later, we still haven't made any progress except for killing off one Al-Zarqawi. However, he isn't even one of the leaders of the main Al-Queda, just a leader of a branch.

And what does Bush do? He makes Iraq his scapegoat and says "Oh Suddam + Iraq has nukes." The UN goes to check, and what do they find? Nothing!
Then Bush goes on a rant about Saddams and his sons crimes. Yes, I think Saddam should be brought down but the thing is by bringing down Suddam, he shattered Iraq's order and now, there's a civil war ready to be fought.
Also, what's ironic about it is that the US put Suddam into power, and the importance of capturing Osama bin Laden is smaller than ever. Also, by leaving Iraq without a government, Iranian and Hamas/Hezbollah militants can now walk in and out of Iraq without any hinderance.

This is why I think the Bush is stupid.

hiboy2004 · 08-02-2006, 09:09 PM

The only problem with you theory is;

1. He never said they had Nukes. He said he had suspicions that Sadam had Weapons of Mass destruction. I have a theory about this, but it's not important.

2. Iraq has a government, a Parliament, a President/Whatever Muslims call him.

3. Iraq and Afghanistan are COMPLETLEY different conflicts. The original battle wasn't Afghan, it was Iraq. Afghanistan was his "War on Terror", which I agree, isn't much.

4. UN had no involvment in Iraq, it was Britain and America.

5. The United States never put Sadam in power, he killed the old leader and took over. Plain and simple.

6. They can't walk without hindrance. They have to smuggle themselves out, into Palestine/ Lebanon.

7. The order you talk about was a very stiff one. Yes, it was moderatley peaceful. But it was only that way because as Cloud said earlier, if anyone tried to stand up to Sadam, he would have them killed.

WindrunnerX · 08-02-2006, 09:34 PM

My Counter Points:

1. My bad :o

2. Iraq does have a government. But one that can't control the state of chaos right now.

3. They still haven't worked on capturing bin Laden. Why doesn't Bush realize to take one step at a time, not try to kill 2 birds with one stone only to miss

4. It was the UN who sent people to check for WMD's in Iraq.

5. The US supported Suddam because when he was still a general, he did not support communism.

6. After Suddam fell, border regulations quickly fell apart, and terroists can walk into Iraq and commit suicide bombings and attack US soldiers.

7. True, Suddam killed many of his people. But also true is that after Suddam fell, people had to deal with suicide bombing attacks. In the news, at least every day, there is one suicide bombing and X amount of people killed. I doubt even Suddam massacred that many of his people.

hiboy2004 · 08-03-2006, 01:49 AM

You would be suprised at the number of suicide bombings has actually decreased.

How often did you hear about Iraq before the war? None. It wasn't all over the news, how do you know the suicide bombings Etc. didn't take place before the war?

Berrybenya · 08-03-2006, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hiboy2004

The only problem with you theory is;

1. He never said they had Nukes. He said he had suspicions that Sadam had Weapons of Mass destruction. I have a theory about this, but it's not important.

2. Iraq has a government, a Parliament, a President/Whatever Muslims call him.

3. Iraq and Afghanistan are COMPLETLEY different conflicts. The original battle wasn't Afghan, it was Iraq. Afghanistan was his "War on Terror", which I agree, isn't much.

4. UN had no involvment in Iraq, it was Britain and America.

5. The United States never put Sadam in power, he killed the old leader and took over. Plain and simple.

6. They can't walk without hindrance. They have to smuggle themselves out, into Palestine/ Lebanon.

7. The order you talk about was a very stiff one. Yes, it was moderatley peaceful. But it was only that way because as Cloud said earlier, if anyone tried to stand up to Sadam, he would have them killed.

maybe its not always good to be a leader after all

WindrunnerX · 08-03-2006, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hiboy2004

You would be suprised at the number of suicide bombings has actually decreased.

How often did you hear about Iraq before the war? None. It wasn't all over the news, how do you know the suicide bombings Etc. didn't take place before the war?

I somehow highly doubt that. If it is indeed true, please show me some evidence from reputable sources.

hiboy2004 · 08-03-2006, 05:22 PM

http://husseinandterror.com/

From what I take, this is 95% dependable. It may have some Biased statements, but read the article.

ArucardX · 08-03-2006, 05:37 PM

Heh I don't think Bush is stupid. I think he just has an agenda and his agenda is the Middle East and I don't agree with his globalism or whatever. Basically, a lot of it has to do with helping protect Israel.

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08-02-2006, 05:36 PM	#111 (permalink)
Xau-Fong Master Chief's Windex Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 90	Of course he's stupid, thats why they hired him afterall. The guy behind however, is awsome.♪ __________________ WARNING:Posts may contain sarcastic or offensive remarks.

08-02-2006, 09:01 PM	#113 (permalink)
WindrunnerX Pikachu's Flea Collar Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 57	The thing is that Saddam may be a terroist in Iraq, but HE DID NOT ****ING BLOW UP THE TWIN TOWERS. The original reason that we went to war and we Americans supported it was to capture Osama bin Laden and eradicate Al Queda!!!!! 5 years later, we still haven't made any progress except for killing off one Al-Zarqawi. However, he isn't even one of the leaders of the main Al-Queda, just a leader of a branch. And what does Bush do? He makes Iraq his scapegoat and says "Oh Suddam + Iraq has nukes." The UN goes to check, and what do they find? Nothing! Then Bush goes on a rant about Saddams and his sons crimes. Yes, I think Saddam should be brought down but the thing is by bringing down Suddam, he shattered Iraq's order and now, there's a civil war ready to be fought. Also, what's ironic about it is that the US put Suddam into power, and the importance of capturing Osama bin Laden is smaller than ever. Also, by leaving Iraq without a government, Iranian and Hamas/Hezbollah militants can now walk in and out of Iraq without any hinderance. This is why I think the Bush is stupid. __________________ Join The Naruto Online Multiplayer Game Naruto-Arena.com

08-02-2006, 09:09 PM	#114 (permalink)
hiboy2004 Cingal's Collar Join Date: May 2006 Location: Raping your churches and burning your children. . . Wait. Posts: 1,567	The only problem with you theory is; 1. He never said they had Nukes. He said he had suspicions that Sadam had Weapons of Mass destruction. I have a theory about this, but it's not important. 2. Iraq has a government, a Parliament, a President/Whatever Muslims call him. 3. Iraq and Afghanistan are COMPLETLEY different conflicts. The original battle wasn't Afghan, it was Iraq. Afghanistan was his "War on Terror", which I agree, isn't much. 4. UN had no involvment in Iraq, it was Britain and America. 5. The United States never put Sadam in power, he killed the old leader and took over. Plain and simple. 6. They can't walk without hindrance. They have to smuggle themselves out, into Palestine/ Lebanon. 7. The order you talk about was a very stiff one. Yes, it was moderatley peaceful. But it was only that way because as Cloud said earlier, if anyone tried to stand up to Sadam, he would have them killed. __________________ Games: DDO- Glane Banefist (level 1 dwarf barbarian) Freerealms- Dwight Schrute

08-02-2006, 09:34 PM	#115 (permalink)
WindrunnerX Pikachu's Flea Collar Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 57	My Counter Points: 1. My bad :o 2. Iraq does have a government. But one that can't control the state of chaos right now. 3. They still haven't worked on capturing bin Laden. Why doesn't Bush realize to take one step at a time, not try to kill 2 birds with one stone only to miss 4. It was the UN who sent people to check for WMD's in Iraq. 5. The US supported Suddam because when he was still a general, he did not support communism. 6. After Suddam fell, border regulations quickly fell apart, and terroists can walk into Iraq and commit suicide bombings and attack US soldiers. 7. True, Suddam killed many of his people. But also true is that after Suddam fell, people had to deal with suicide bombing attacks. In the news, at least every day, there is one suicide bombing and X amount of people killed. I doubt even Suddam massacred that many of his people. __________________ Join The Naruto Online Multiplayer Game Naruto-Arena.com

08-03-2006, 01:49 AM	#116 (permalink)
hiboy2004 Cingal's Collar Join Date: May 2006 Location: Raping your churches and burning your children. . . Wait. Posts: 1,567	You would be suprised at the number of suicide bombings has actually decreased. How often did you hear about Iraq before the war? None. It wasn't all over the news, how do you know the suicide bombings Etc. didn't take place before the war? __________________ Games: DDO- Glane Banefist (level 1 dwarf barbarian) Freerealms- Dwight Schrute

08-03-2006, 05:22 PM	#119 (permalink)
hiboy2004 Cingal's Collar Join Date: May 2006 Location: Raping your churches and burning your children. . . Wait. Posts: 1,567	http://husseinandterror.com/ From what I take, this is 95% dependable. It may have some Biased statements, but read the article. __________________ Games: DDO- Glane Banefist (level 1 dwarf barbarian) Freerealms- Dwight Schrute

08-03-2006, 05:37 PM	#120 (permalink)
ArucardX Super Duper Uber Mega Ultra Extreme Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 887	Heh I don't think Bush is stupid. I think he just has an agenda and his agenda is the Middle East and I don't agree with his globalism or whatever. Basically, a lot of it has to do with helping protect Israel.

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