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Seeric · 07-24-2009, 08:04 PM

Just a few questions/suggestions concerning the future of this list:

Are there any plans to make a 'point of no return' mark? For example, if game X ever hits a score of -10 it's listed as a game to stay away from and it can't get any more positive votes.

Should dead games be removed or should they stay? For example, I gave a positive vote to both Shadowbane and Darkness & Light because I felt they earned it, but they're still dead in all countries.

One problem with a list without limitations is games that are already well-known have a much higher chance of getting more votes simply because more people now of their existence. A suggestion to counter this is to give people the option of a single plus and/or minus vote that gives +/- 2 to a game instead of just 1. That way very good or very bad games that are fairly unknown still have a chance of getting out of the 1-4 range; the fact that the vote is limited means the person is willing to sacrifice adding/subtracting points from many other games just to give a bigger point boost/loss to the game which means it likely deserves it regardless of popularity.

Songz · 07-24-2009, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeric

Just a few questions/suggestions concerning the future of this list:

Are there any plans to make a 'point of no return' mark? For example, if game X ever hits a score of -10 it's listed as a game to stay away from and it can't get any more positive votes.

Should dead games be removed or should they stay? For example, I gave a positive vote to both Shadowbane and Darkness & Light because I felt they earned it, but they're still dead in all countries.

One problem with a list without limitations is games that are already well-known have a much higher chance of getting more votes simply because more people now of their existence. A suggestion to counter this is to give people the option of a single plus and/or minus vote that gives +/- 2 to a game instead of just 1. That way very good or very bad games that are fairly unknown still have a chance of getting out of the 1-4 range; the fact that the vote is limited means the person is willing to sacrifice adding/subtracting points from many other games just to give a bigger point boost/loss to the game which means it likely deserves it regardless of popularity.

I was thinking about a list for something like that- for the games really close to -10 - like Shiaya, and Archlord - but I thought that would be very disrespectful to the companies. Who knows if they come browsing... I'll can tell you the least voted on if you ask. But plastering on OP seemed kind of rude. Some people like those games as well. :P
Especially since Silkroad is also way down there.

I was going to add a list for games you should play to get your own opinion because the votes are up and down for it. For example Maple story.
When I convert it into numbers - the votes are like this: Maple Story- 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0/ 7
Its up and down, so you should play - it might be for you or it might not be.

Dead games are removed. I was a big Shadowbane fan as well.. but you can't point out games that don't exist. There are also no private servers for them.

Could you explain what exactly you mean with your idea. I kind of never really understood what exactly I think you mean.

GolemiTopki · 07-25-2009, 11:03 AM

his idea is :
1. -10 games = banned from the list forever

2. If the person thinks the game '' X '' is really good and worth trying , he should be able to give +2 , and the same if the person thinks the game '' X '' is really bad and not worth it trying and wasting ur time , he should be able to give -2 , like that smaller games that are really worth trying and not so famous , can get higher in the list

.

not just +/- 1

That's what i understood from his idea

Melton · 07-25-2009, 12:25 PM

+1 for Guild Wars, Team Fortress 2, Ragnarok Online, Dragonica

Songz · 07-26-2009, 05:33 PM

Tommorrow I'll have all the tags up, and I'll consider that idea Seeric.

Alivada · 07-26-2009, 05:37 PM

+ WoW
+ TF2
+ RoM
+ Wurm Online
- FFXI
- Crossfire

Edit: Negatives were to generic.

elazulblack · 07-26-2009, 06:00 PM

Positive for:

World of Warcraft, FFXI, LaTale, Team Fortress 2, Phantasy Star Online: Blue Burst, and Phantasy Star Universe.

marcipaans · 07-26-2009, 06:07 PM

+1 Savage 2, Heroes Of Newerth

Seeric · 07-26-2009, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Songz

Could you explain what exactly you mean with your idea. I kind of never really understood what exactly I think you mean.

Sorry that I'm a bit late in explaining what I meant, but it's like this:
For example, WoW is a very well-known game so it's going to get a lot of votes simply because a lot of people know about it. However, if there is a 'Game A' that is not very well-known but of about the same quality, it's not going to get anywhere near as many votes simply because not many people know about it.

So, I was suggesting to give the option of +/- 2 for a single game instead of a bunch of games if someone feels it strongly deserves it. For example, let's say I want to give a + to WoW, FF11, FlyFF, Guild Wars, and Mabinogi, but while I think each game deserves a +rep perhaps I feel that Guild Wars deserves it far more than the others. So, as an alternative to giving a +1 to all of those, I can choose to give +2 to Guild Wars but nothing to any other game (at least not positively).

Songz · 07-26-2009, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeric

Sorry that I'm a bit late in explaining what I meant, but it's like this:
For example, WoW is a very well-known game so it's going to get a lot of votes simply because a lot of people know about it. However, if there is a 'Game A' that is not very well-known but of about the same quality, it's not going to get anywhere near as many votes simply because not many people know about it.

So, I was suggesting to give the option of +/- 2 for a single game instead of a bunch of games if someone feels it strongly deserves it. For example, let's say I want to give a + to WoW, FF11, FlyFF, Guild Wars, and Mabinogi, but while I think each game deserves a +rep perhaps I feel that Guild Wars deserves it far more than the others. So, as an alternative to giving a +1 to all of those, I can choose to give +2 to Guild Wars but nothing to any other game (at least not positively).

I don't think that's not really necessary, because there are no games like that really. Because this is Onrpg, not some random MMO site. Onrpgers hate on popular games just because they're popular. Lol.
I can trust that games will be rated up depending on how good they are, so far its going pretty well.

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07-24-2009, 08:04 PM	#81 (permalink)
Seeric Pellet Eater Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 581 Reputation: 95	Just a few questions/suggestions concerning the future of this list: Are there any plans to make a 'point of no return' mark? For example, if game X ever hits a score of -10 it's listed as a game to stay away from and it can't get any more positive votes. Should dead games be removed or should they stay? For example, I gave a positive vote to both Shadowbane and Darkness & Light because I felt they earned it, but they're still dead in all countries. One problem with a list without limitations is games that are already well-known have a much higher chance of getting more votes simply because more people now of their existence. A suggestion to counter this is to give people the option of a single plus and/or minus vote that gives +/- 2 to a game instead of just 1. That way very good or very bad games that are fairly unknown still have a chance of getting out of the 1-4 range; the fact that the vote is limited means the person is willing to sacrifice adding/subtracting points from many other games just to give a bigger point boost/loss to the game which means it likely deserves it regardless of popularity.

07-25-2009, 11:03 AM	#83 (permalink)
GolemiTopki Link's Dirty Sock Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 45 Reputation: 10	his idea is : 1. -10 games = banned from the list forever 2. If the person thinks the game '' X '' is really good and worth trying , he should be able to give +2 , and the same if the person thinks the game '' X '' is really bad and not worth it trying and wasting ur time , he should be able to give -2 , like that smaller games that are really worth trying and not so famous , can get higher in the list . not just +/- 1 That's what i understood from his idea

07-26-2009, 06:00 PM	#87 (permalink)
elazulblack pew pew pew Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,699 Reputation: 30	Positive for: World of Warcraft, FFXI, LaTale, Team Fortress 2, Phantasy Star Online: Blue Burst, and Phantasy Star Universe.