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Originally Posted by Kashis

You're still missing my point, I'm not saying WK's do not or should not train at spots that make use of their elemental abilities. Again my point is: WK's do decent damage on neutral element monsters up until the point you gain the charges and then go train at spots with monsters who are weak to the elemental attribute you are raising. I'm aware that the whole whole point in getting the charges is to use them against a monster who is weak to it however: that is irrelevant to my point.

You are missing my point because you are focusing in on the elemental charges WK's get and therefore should train on monsters who are weak to them. I'm simply trying to explain, WK's can do decent damage on neutral element enemies provided you are using good gear. Their damage potential in a single hit or DPS isn't as good as some of the other jobs, however for training purposes they can still do decent damage on neutral element monsters provided they have decent gear even after having the charges. That's all I'm saying.

Of course they do more with the charges, no one is disputing that.

Of course it would be better to exploit their elemental charges on monsters weak to them, I'm not disputing that either. They are not limited to only those types of monsters those are just usually the best ones to train on. In some cases though, once you reach a certain amount of base damage, you can train at a number of spots. Ice charge's ability to freeze is a primary reason people go for it anyway, not for the elemental bonus damage.

Originally Posted by MoonlightDarkness

I get your point... But why should a WK still train on something they can't kill easily? (point can be disputed on the ever popular WR map..)

Originally Posted by Kashis

Why would any class train on something they can't kill easily? I don't recall saying they should so I'm not sure what you mean by that. Like I said, a lot of em use ice charge for freeze which opens up training spots especially if they have good equips, and not because of the elemental bonus damage.

I've not trained on WRs as a WK so I wouldn't know exactly how hard or easy it is for them. But common sense would tell you that if they ain't easy to kill then you shouldn't be training on them. I never said WK's should train on them in the first place though.

Originally Posted by killakev

Grrrr they need to expand the 120 level cap for cygnus in the near future =(