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koguryospy

I'm trying to save up some money and get a better PC, but i'm also going to the Air Force soon (before February) and dont really NEED to do this. I'm also just assuming once I get stationed i'll have the capability to have a computer of my own in my living quarters. So that being said help me make some new computer decisions;

I could buy a computer that fits the gaming description (without a monitor)
iBUYPOWER Gamer Power 525D3 Phenom II X2 550(3.1GHz) 4GB DDR3 500GB NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit Free MS Windows 7 Upgrade - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883227151

Price: 689.99 shipping not included
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Which isn't really all that bad but honestly, I think custom building one would be so much cooler because I get what I want in the computer. Here's what i've come up with (tell me if im missing any parts for the computer itself)

Specs:
POWER SOURCE
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail***
Voted Best Power Supply Manufacturer by Custom PC 2008

PROCESSOR
AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor

CASE
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail***
KickAss Award by Hardware Geeks

HARDDRIVE
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

MOTHERBOARD
ECS BLACK SERIES GF8200A (V1.0) AM2+/AM3 NVIDIA GeForce 8200 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail***
Recipient of Hot Product, Good Value & Recommended Award

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GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail***
Customer Choice Award1x Winner of Customer Choice Award - AMD Motherboards
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ASUS M3A78-EM AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail***
Display option w/ HDMI, DVI, VGA, DisplayPort support


CDROM (not sure if I need regular CD-ROM + CDRW or what)
Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD/CD Rewritable Drive - OEM

------AND / OR-------
LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - OEM


RAM
Crucial 4GB (2 x 2G 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664BA1339 - Retail


Video Card (I dont know video cards too well so help me out on an epic inexpensive one if this isnt)
SAPPHIRE Vapor-X Radeon HD 4870 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
Vapor-X cooling design w/ native HDMI port


Price: $850+

Links-- (As shown listed)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139009
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103471
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129021
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136319
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131324
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827118030
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128392
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148262
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102826



So to summarize and clear up anything.. Money isn't really a huge deal, especially once im in the Military, i'll be gettin paid and have nothing to spend it on. The specs I want are pretty much as listed, 3.0GHz or higher processor, 4-6GB RAM, 500GB+ Harddrive, a nice looking case with alot of cooling, nice power source, and a nice video card.. I'm not going to be playing Crysis, but it wouldnt hurt if I could. I do however like the new games coming out, especially MMO / FPS / RPG ones. I've never built my own computer before so I dont know how much of a struggle it is. Should I just get the comp with all the parts or build my own?

Sakumo

How about this idea..What can you reuse, what don't you need to be included into the price, planned resolution, expected games to play with it, and any brand preferences. Also, your maximum price would be nice too, but not necessary.

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Abubakr

For that $850 price range that you're in, I would go with the Intel i5.

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koguryospy

My current computer sucks, the only things I could really do is see if the RAM is compatable and see if I can add my old 75GB harddrive to the 500GB+ one for no particular reason.. Other than that.. crappy processor, not a leet video card, if anything i can sell my computer for like 100-250 dollars or give it to a family member. -- possibly without the monitor, depends...

Is Intel so much better than AMD processors? I dont know a whole lot about computability, so correct me if im wrong, but alot of video cards won't be compatible because its not Intel? (or am I thinking of motherboards -- and I dont even know what motherboards do really..)



And a price range, well RIGHT now I have around $630 USD. Like I said, i'll be joining the Military before February, and you get paid atleast 1200 a month. So, honestly I just don't want to spend 1000+ on a computer then spend about the same for a nice monitor and whatever else I might want..

I'm drawn towards flashy stuff like neon lights inside the computer, liquid cooling systems, stuff you dont need but makes your computer awesome.

So i'd say 1500 MAX and thats pushing it!! -- because I would still need a monitor amongst other things..

Sakumo

So all show and no go? or all go and no show? It's one or the other. Also, liquid cooling isn't for looks, it's for performance..And I'm the one helping him build HIS computer..So yeah. I'll post a build after you answer my last question I guess..

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koguryospy

I'd prefer performance over looks.

Edit: here's what im talking about as far as gaming performace... "new games"

YouTube Video

Sakumo

Well here's the build:
CPU & MoBo& RAM-http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.259640
Or if you want a single card set up instead,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.259309
or if you're doing video production too, or just want to future proof a little more,
CPU-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115214
MoBo & RAM-Same as above
GPU-NONE at the moment, the new generation is coming out in a few weeks for ATI, which is 30% better than this generation, AND proven to be able to handle 6 of monitors at 2500x1600? each.
PSU-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
Single card set-up above, multi card set-up below
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371018
Or if you want a cheaper one,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371009
Case-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119196
Looks great and is military related, sort of. Since you'd probably be on the move, the handles are a great feature, but the case is rather small, so you might have to do some modding to get a little extra room for newer cards.
Or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119138
About the same as the above, but bigger, more cable manageable, yet still have handles.
Or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119194
I believe this is the biggest of them all, but isn't good if you relocate a lot.
The rest is really personal picked, so I can't help you there.

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