Old 09-22-2009, 06:43 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Really I just came in wondering how he was writing a review on something thats not close to being finished. It would be like me reviewing that Gundam statue when it was only legs and a hip joint.
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Old 09-22-2009, 06:47 AM   #72 (permalink)
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I don't know why people can't make up their minds.

You like reviews, but not really. So you 'not really' like reviews. Great.

All reviews are based on opinions, THEIR opinion of the game. So if you don't like other people's opinions, don't read reviews, which are, as you say, an opinion. Period.
You can have an agreable and fortified opinion or one that is completely rushed and shoved together. So it's all a mix.
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Old 09-22-2009, 06:48 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Really I just came in wondering how he was writing a review on something thats not close to being finished. It would be like me reviewing that Gundam statue when it was only legs and a hip joint.
People want to know what a game is like RIGHT THIS INSTANT when they install it. They are not going to wait 5 years till open beta is finished.

They want reviews of the game this instant.

As in, at this very second. Entering the game this moment in time. Right now. This second. Right this instant.

Because why would you play a broken game that promises on more content down the track. But wait! You're not allowed to review it yet because the game isn't finished!!

Reviewing a game that is open beta is TOTALLY different from judging art or a statue that isn't finished. That analogy fails so bad.
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People want to know what a game is like RIGHT THIS INSTANT when they install it. They are not going to wait 5 years till open beta is finished.

They want reviews of the game this instant.

As in, at this very second. Entering the game this moment in time. Right now. This second. Right this instant.

Because why would you play a broken game that promises on more content down the track. But wait! You're not allowed to review it yet because the game isn't finished!!

Reviewing a game that is open beta is TOTALLY different from judging art or a statue that isn't finished. That analogy fails so bad.
It's Judging something that isn't even created yet but is already known for coming around to be good (The Statue) and something that's out already at one location but is only seen and not played by many.

That analogy doesn't fail, you're just being... bleh.
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It's Judging something that isn't even created yet but is already known for coming around to be good (The Statue) and something that's out already at one location but is only seen and not played by many.

That analogy doesn't fail, you're just being... bleh.
So you're saying reviews of all games are invalid until all the content is released?

Reviews are needed at open beta stage to judge how that game is when it is released as open beta, with people playing it at that point in time.

Art isn't released half finished. It's either being created or finished. There is no in between. Hence why reviews are only at the end.

Games are however always being worked on. There is always more content being released. It is NEVER finished. Especially mmorpgs. More and more content, updates are always being released. So constant reviews are always valid.

Get it?

God, imagine if there were no reviews of mmorpgs because content hasn't been released yet. These reviews are NOT valid. It's ONLY in open beta. You're not ALLOWED to review it yet. If you do, it's not important. It's rushed. *facepalm*
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So you're saying reviews of all games are invalid until all the content is released?

Reviews are needed at open beta stage to judge how that game is when it is released as open beta, with people playing it at that point in time.

Art isn't released half finished. It's either being created or finished. There is no in between. Hence why reviews are only at the end.

Games are however always being worked on. There is always more content being released. It is NEVER finished. Especially mmorpgs. More and more content, updates are always being released. So constant reviews are always valid.

Get it?

God, imagine if there were no reviews of mmorpgs because content hasn't been released yet. These reviews are NOT valid. It's ONLY in open beta. You're not ALLOWED to review it yet. If you do, it's not important. It's rushed. *facepalm*
Sigh. Kon do you realize how much I don't care by now? Seriously I give up, you won this... whatever it is. congratulations my fine sir. have a good day on the internet.
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So according to Kon, Wow sucked in open beta because all of the content wasn't there?
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Old 09-22-2009, 07:10 AM   #78 (permalink)
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Sigh. Kon do you realize how much I don't care by now? Seriously I give up, you won this... whatever it is. congratulations my fine sir. have a good day on the internet.
Sigh, it's not a competition. No one wins.

I just don't know why everyone think the thread creators reviews aren't valid because

1) it's his opinion OR
2) The mmorpg isn't finished, hence reviews aren't allowed.

I'm just saying his reviews have just as much weighting as other people's reviews.

@werewolfX. When did i say that? That's the most twisted logic ever.

I'm saying a REVIEW on wow at open beta is completely valid. Whether it sucked, whether it's great, the review is valid.

merkamerka and erickdiamond claim the game has to be finished before reviews are needed. Just like how statues need to be finished before reviews are allowed.

werewolf, i'm not sure what your reading but you completely missed the point. How you came up with that conclusion is totally beyond me. You must just be skimming all the posts and jumping on the bandwagon

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to have a non skewed view of a game, you need to have it released, because while in open beta, there are bugs, glitches, class balacing and other things, that may not exist in final release.
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to have a non skewed view of a game, you need to have it released, because while in open beta, there are bugs, glitches, class balacing and other things, that may not exist in final release.
Mmorpgs are never fully released. They are constantly updating, class balancing, etc.

Wow is constantly being updated. It constantly has expansions.

So your saying reviews at open beta stage, at wrath of the lich king stage, at all the other stages, are pointless?

The fact is mmorpgs are constantly updating. Reviews DO serve a purpose.

Because lets face it. If we were to wait till EVERYTHING was released to have a 'non skewed view of a game', then I think we may be dead before that happens.

I don't know why people hate reviews so much just because the game isn't fully released.

It's a review people! That's what you want when you install a game and play it when the game isn't fully released yet! It's a review at that stage of progress, whether good, whether it's bad, it's still valid opinions from people.

We're not going to wait 10 years till a game has all its bugs and glitches and balancing issues and updates finished to review a game.
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