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feofilakt

Are you attempting to argue that society should eventually become a promiscuous mob of chaos? If everyone saw sex as a simple thing that should be as common as water, do you honestly think anything society would continue to progress at peak efficiency, let alone progress at all?

What you're talking about would completely halt the progress of society. Marriage would stop altogether because a promiscuous society depends entirely upon the concept that nobody "holds back" as far as sexual activity goes. Furthermore, birth rates would skyrocket due to the increased sexual activity.

These two components combined would create one or several generations of children with no family experiences, no morals, and an insufficient system of punishment. In other words, these generations would not be able to fulfill important tasks such as running countries or private businesses.

Eventually, you'll get around to a similar scenario to the comedic movie known as Idiocracy. While I deplore using non-textual references, I have not yet read a book that predicts a similar outcome.


As for your argument about "being horny," masturbation is irrelevant because there are many individuals whom do not need to masturbate to negate such feelings, myself included. If one feels a need to masturbate for any reason beyond health-related theories, that would simply confirm my assertions.

Xenonight2

Hmm... I think you might be right on the monogamy part. I'll concede there. You're making good sense.

Look it up further. You will see that a psychological dependency only becomes medically (and psychologically) an addiction when it becomes out of control.

First, let us see if we can agree on the terms used by medical professionals and psychiatrics worldwide who deal with people who suffer from these symptoms:

A psychological dependence is where the body is physically the same, but the brain continues to crave the stimulus that it has a dependency on once access to this stimulus has ended.

An addiction is where the person is incapable of stopping their continued actions of giving themselves the stimulus (be it drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, or masturbation) despite the negative consequences that they receive for their actions. Not to mention that an addiction has a physical dependency aspect.

Can we agree on that? You should, because these are terms that the people who actually deal with people who suffer from this use for a living.

Now, moving on: you can see the differences between these terms and how they are not synonymous, and which will later tie into my point that is laughable ridiculous (yes I actually did laugh) to suggest that masturbating more than once a month is an addiction.

Firstly, a psychological dependency does not have any sort of physical aspect. A psychological dependency is naturally controllable. There is a strong urge, but it is ultimately just that - an urge that can be suppressed by a healthy individual.

Secondly, an addiction is naturally extremely hard to control, since addiction results with the chemicals inducing the addiction make long-lasting chemical changes to the brain - like the reward centers and endorphin releases that you mentioned. At the same time, though, an addiction is characterized by physical withdrawl symptoms, therefore making the patient's ability to stop himself much harder.

If we follow these definitions, then we can see that there is a very discrete and fine difference between Joe, who is on the bus right now and is really horny and wants to masturbate and has that urge, but is perfectly capable of waiting until he is home to give in - or at least to start having sex with his girlfriend who is right next to him. And then there is Shadowsworn, who has the same urge, but also has an addiction, and therefore whips out his sausage and starts assuaging it right in public. When the bus driver finds out the situation, he calls the police, and they take him to the police headquarters for processing. Well, they find out that this wasn't his first time "building his bridge solo" in public, and that he was already well aware of the consequences.

The first is something that is controllable, and perhaps may spiral into addiction if he does it way too much, but in the end it's just a desire that he can withhold from himself. The second, however, is far more serious as it has real life consequences, but he is still unable to stop himself. This man, Shadowsworn, needs psychiatric help and a support group.

They may seem similar to you, but then again you are wrong. Perhaps you are getting hung up on the fact that both involve an urge - but the fundamental difference between the two terms (and this is where you are getting confused) is that one entails much more than a simple urge.

I can sum this up neatly: A psychological dependency is where you have an urge that when you give in to it feels good.

An addiction is where you cannot help but give in, and it is one of your primary sources of happiness. But also generally has an element of physical dependency, and a change to brain structure that makes it more like a physical disease than it is a psychological problem.

And this ties into my point that calling masturbating more than once a month an addiction is just... Hilarious. If you weren't serious, I'd recommend going on tour with this kind of material if you had enough. Calling masturbating more than once a month an addiction is like calling craving a food an addiction. You simply get horny, and then you masturbate, and you are sated. It is no different than if you get horny, you have sex with your partner, and then you are sated. It is an urge that can come and go regardless of whether you give in or not, and often times whether or not you do or do not give in is what turns it into a depedency. Sometimes I get horny and I masturbate, and many times I do not. I do this more than once a month, but at the same time I show absolutely ZERO signs of psychological depedency, let alone, HA, addiction. I do it simply because it feels good, I'm in the mood, and I'm not too focused on anything right at the moment. When I don't give in, any feeling of "aw man I gotta do it" fades after the horniness fades. There is no dissapointment.

You too would find this to be the common feeling - any need to masturbate fades after the horniness fades, even though you may do it once a month. If your claim that you don't masturbate is true, that is.

Really, you are confusing simple sexuality and horniness with psychological dependency... And then you are confusing psychological dependency with addiction.

Don't have time to point out just how unbased and how so little reason and argument is given in your post, but I will say this: populations are skyrocketing anyway. And it doesn't have to do with sexual promiscuity - in fact, the number of children being born per mother is actually decreasing all over the world, especially in the third world. Rather, the amount of resources available to keep the population alive is increasing, and therefore more people are alive to reproduce, even though less children are being produced per person.

IronyTaken

70& of females say they have masturbated and 90% males say they have masturbated. The other percent group are lying.

Masturbation is natural and even some other mammals do it. Heck some babies still in the mother's womb have been known to play with themselves.

Croﮎﮎ

I think we all agree that fapping is fun

Is that like incest? LOL

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Torian

How is it incest? It's not like his mom is reaching into her vagina and stroking her baby's penor.

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MoonLight21

lol!! how can a baby do that inside its mother womb =))

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thyrene

LOL Torian... in 4 hours you can make 4-6? Addicted on it? Nice hobby!!!

@topic

There are some people who cant live a day without masturbating and sometimes it is depends on their genes. Cause I knew someone that his parents are pervert and and rest are pervert too. Not only pervert, but being a sexcaholic!

For male
-they do masturbate cause it gives satisfaction
-to make them sleepy
-hobby
-they love it
-imagining someone from Hollywood! (LOL) joke imagining people they wanted to make love!
-and others!

For female
-some are not only masturbating their selves but also become their hobby too. That's why other female called SLUT because they do sex to any man as long as they got d*ck,
-give satisfaction
-hobby
-used to it
-to make sleepy
-and others!

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frannecice_311

Pathetic and mentally sick people, those who masturbates.

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Norrin Radd

If masturbation doesn't work for you, don't do it. Don't go around preaching the benefits of not doing it as if they're fact, or worse, better. People disagree. You need make no further assertions. I've discovered that, usually, people so insecurely persistent are the ones who question themselves.

Maybe you really aren't sure that your choice is working out, and just want all of us to join in. Kind of like a cult leader.

Furthermore, no. Not a promiscuous "mob of chaos". I just don't see sex as important. It's given way too much sacred coating which causes too many people to waste too much time just trying to f*ck.

It's not that important.

Paladuck

The arguments people are making against masturbation in this thread are the same arguments that people made up until the early 1900s...outdated and not really sensible anymore in modern times.

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