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Old 09-29-2009, 11:58 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Alright, what's really been on my mind for years is how I cant go a day, let alone a few hours without whipping it out and fapping, yet others, who have and havent had sex, who are and arent attracted to the opposite sex and who are or arent in a relationship can go through their life without masturbating. What's the science behind it?

Yes I've had sex loads of times, no I'm not a basement neckbeard, etc etc. So what's up with this D;. Also brb, I really needa fap.
Its all in your mind.. well I can keep my self not doing it as long as I wanted. Every time you feel like you can't hold on anymore, just watch cartoon or funny movies or you can just go outside your house.. If there are many people outside I don't think you will still do it unless your a perv???
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Old 09-29-2009, 08:13 PM   #82 (permalink)
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I'll simply take your word on it, and admit I must have been describing a psychological dependency. Perhaps that is the more widely accepted terminology for a mental addiction, since the phrases are practically synonymous.
Practically synonymous? No. Psychological dependency is merely the first stage of an addiction. An addiction, and I think it bears repeating, is the inability to stop despite negative consequences. Psychological dependency is more or less a nagging need to do something - it is still totally possible for the patient to stop without serious therapy. In the medical world, and this includes psychiatry and psychology to a lesser extent, terms are everything, and you must be very careful as to what you deem "practically synonymous." The two terms describe very different, discrete stages of a psychological disorder. You cannot confuse them, or use one in the place of the other, as deeming them synonyms would imply.

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Long before civilization, humanity was based on a tribe structure. If modern-day hunters and gatherers (tribes found in undeveloped countries) are in any way similar to these early forms of humanity, then humanity most likely survived this time period through utilizing a monogamous structure. I'd go into genetic traits human females probably developed to more effectively ensure a monogamous structure, but that's irrelevant to the topic.
Looking at isolated tribes is unnecessary. You simply have to look at history. In fact, in modern times, if you look at it from an anthropologist perspective, you will see that most socieities support polygamy. However, most men have only a single wife, because it is only the men who have a lot of resources and are older and rich that can support more than one wife.

Long before civilization, and even right now, Polygny has been one of the dominant cultural aspects of marriage in Africa since before Western monogamous culture ever existed.
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The reason I mention this is because all humanity began off of this structure. The point where it began to crumble was when civilization was introduced (most likely). Under this larger scale structure, it became harder to keep track individuals whom strayed away from the original concepts which was more easily enforced under a small society.
Got it backwards there, dude. I don't have the time to go into super detail of why polygamy was extremely common in our tribal days, but you can still look at almost any period of history and you will find elements of polygamy, or at least polygyny. Or you can just look at Africa, where polygynous marriages were more common than non-polygynous marriages until colonialism. It was polygamy that happened first, but was later suppressed in many cultures, but not every culture. One of the few cultures that you just so happen to live in is the one that suppresses it. If you had been born virtually anywhere in Africa, you would be many times more likely to practice it. If you are a Muslim and you move to India, you are allowed to practice it. In Tibet you are allowed to practice it. If you are a Muslim and moved to Saudi Arabia, you would be allowed to practice it.

Polygamy is even in the Old Testament, although it mostly consists of David and Solomon.

Just remember, polygamy is legal in many more countries than it is not. However, polygamy has always been rare because, well, most men at a young age could only afford to have one wife. It was the older men that got all the other wives. Personally, I'm quite happy to be living in a non polygyny society, because it means that I have more women to choose from when it comes time to look for a relationship. Let's face it, as guys, serial monogamy rocks.
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Old 09-29-2009, 08:18 PM   #83 (permalink)
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some people have a bucket full of it

some people have bugger all of it

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the science behind it, you wank, you explode, your happy.

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Old 09-29-2009, 10:17 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Why is it that the smartest, most literate people on OnRpg are typing up paragraph after paragraph in a thread about the science of masturbation?
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Old 09-29-2009, 10:21 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Why is it that the smartest, most literate people on OnRpg are typing up paragraph after paragraph in a thread about the science of masturbation?
What's even stranger: they've completely strayed off the topic of masturbation.
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Old 09-29-2009, 10:24 PM   #86 (permalink)
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Oh really? I didn't bother reading the walls of text.
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Old 09-29-2009, 10:53 PM   #87 (permalink)
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Oh really? I didn't bother reading the walls of text.
Same I don't think many people read those walls of text.

About masterbation, I do it 1 or more times a day.
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Old 09-29-2009, 11:11 PM   #88 (permalink)
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if it was, would it not be the best kind of OCD?
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Old 09-30-2009, 01:03 AM   #89 (permalink)
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Practically synonymous? No.
Psychological: The science that deals with mental processes and behavior.
Dependency: A compulsive or chronic need; an addiction.

Yes, they're practically synonymous.


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Looking at isolated tribes is unnecessary. You simply have to look at history.
I'm not going to quote the remainder because you're obviously not looking at the correct tribes nor are you referring far enough into the past. All of your references are from written history, ignoring what only modern theory suggests how humans lived prior to written history.

If the theory of human evolution is indeed correct (humans evolving from chimpanzees), then the differences between physical traits (including sex-related) are telltale signs of there being differences between the two systems. Chimpanzees live under a patriarchal system with promiscuous sexual behavior, with some exceptions which include a hierarchical system between the male chimpanzees.

This system, over the long term, caused females to need to have a distinct sign of being ready to have reproduce (which is swelling of certain regions I don't desire to repeat). This maximizes the female's ability to reproduce, due to making it more noticeable to males.

Female humans do not exhibit the same trait, meaning humans probably existed under a different sexual system for a majority the split from chimpanzees estimated to be 2 million years ago. Another adaptation specifically to human females is the the unconscious ability to synchronize periods if multiple females live within the same enclosed group for a lengthened period of time.

Some anthropologists theorize these two adaptations, along with evidence seen from many modern-day hunter and gatherer tribes (primarily found within South America), that humans survived primarily through a monogamous system whereas males mostly got one female.


The reason your examples are insufficient is because African tribes were affected by civilization, altering the outcome over the longer term and not allowing their modern-day hunter and gatherer tribes to be sufficient examples. The bible is a written document, meaning civilization had already existed for quite some time (meaning polygamy could have very well existed in shocking amounts due to it being within a society larger than a tribe). Modern religions generally feed off whatever they designate the people would want, as to maximize the number of followers.
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Old 09-30-2009, 01:10 AM   #90 (permalink)
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It's not a question of their opinion or if they can still complete actions, it's more a question of how happy one would be if they stopped for, say, a month or two. Especially if one is currently masturbating once a day.
Until sex is seen by society for what is is; something simple that shouldn't be held as sacred, thus greatly available. Why not masturbate?

Being horny is one of the most unproductive mindsets ever. If masturbating gets it out of your head (Har!) so that you can concentrate on, ya know, all the things in life than ACTUALLY matter, why not?
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