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Old 11-02-2009, 05:15 AM   #21 (permalink)
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lol Nintendo just need to admit they don't how to make system with a good 3d render like xbox and ps3
That's because 1- it's a handheld, 2- it's not meant to have awesome graphics.. :|. If you're talking about the Wii, it has it's games, it can't do that much being the fact that the Wii uses a system in which if you had a nice realistic 3D render, it'd be **** up acrossed the line.

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i could care less for nintendo handhelds, it just makes you feel like shit when u buy the 1st one then a year later they make another one, but no it doesnt have new games, just new crap that you know you wont actually use. Please just release one system not 4 and and add one feature every time
I like the fact I can play MP3s on my DSi :`. that and make short gifs, + the shitty camera. I actually use the mp3 player alot, since my iTouch ****ed the hell up.
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:23 AM   #22 (permalink)
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So what if they came out with a new version? For those who don't have a DS then they can have the newest model with more features. For those not wanting to spend a bunch of money for a few improvements over the system they currently have, then you don't have to. All DS games are compatible with any DS system so as long as you have one of them you are good to go. This isn't anything new guys; companies have been coming out new versions of their systems for...ever. What the new DSi is bringing is a vastly improved handheld compared to the original model which is damn near obsolete.

Eventually, these new DSis will go down in price and then there won't be much to complain about. So for a person who's never had one to begin with, they get to enjoy all the games that are out and upcoming on an improved version for not that much more (maybe less than or the same) than the original price depending on when they get one.

Companies only make money if people buy their products though. You guys don't have to buy a new anything as long as the old one still does what it needs to. No reason to miss out completely though because you refuse to spend the same amount of money to get more features than people did years ago for less.

I can see what you guys mean, but there's always another way to look at it.

and the SNES came in different versions btw.
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:48 AM   #23 (permalink)
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he said this design is for handicapped people >...< lol
"The reason Nintendo decided to make a larger DSi was because of the amount of elderly people in Japan that play it. The bigger screen and form factor make it easier on the eyes."

Seems EU and US are riding on the "bigger screen will make consumers buy buy buy" mindset. Misleading the public into buying a product designed for vision impared and elderly people.

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Old 11-02-2009, 02:00 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:47 PM   #25 (permalink)
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So what if they came out with a new version? For those who don't have a DS then they can have the newest model with more features. For those not wanting to spend a bunch of money for a few improvements over the system they currently have, then you don't have to. All DS games are compatible with any DS system so as long as you have one of them you are good to go. This isn't anything new guys; companies have been coming out new versions of their systems for...ever. What the new DSi is bringing is a vastly improved handheld compared to the original model which is damn near obsolete.
Actually, newer models come out with more RAM. I've noticed some of the newer games have a lot of slowdown on my lite, which could be due to them designing it for the DSi. Not to mention, the DSi has DSi specific games through download, which older versions can not get. I believe there is a RAM addon that you can throw into slot 2 for the lite, but why would I bother having a big chunk sticking out the bottom..

All this is, is bringing out a "half-release" rather than a "new handheld release". They are forcing consumers to get the latest if they want to enjoy more games - even though they've already paid for one handheld to do this. Upgrade and enjoy the new DSi-ware (and more than likely newer games coming out to maximize the RAM potential) is all they are doing. Shrug. Just like Sony with the PSPGo. Getting rid of UMDs and making them worthless, and making all games download-only (which is so far preventing piracy very well). So basically, the new system is worthless for the people that have already bought tons of games.

Hence the reason that I don't buy handheld games unless I think the developer deserves it.

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Old 11-03-2009, 03:52 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Actually, newer models come out with more RAM. I've noticed some of the newer games have a lot of slowdown on my lite, which could be due to them designing it for the DSi. Not to mention, the DSi has DSi specific games through download, which older versions can not get. I believe there is a RAM addon that you can throw into slot 2 for the lite, but why would I bother having a big chunk sticking out the bottom..

All this is, is bringing out a "half-release" rather than a "new handheld release". They are forcing consumers to get the latest if they want to enjoy more games - even though they've already paid for one handheld to do this. Upgrade and enjoy the new DSi-ware (and more than likely newer games coming out to maximize the RAM potential) is all they are doing. Shrug. Just like Sony with the PSPGo. Getting rid of UMDs and making them worthless, and making all games download-only (which is so far preventing piracy very well). So basically, the new system is worthless for the people that have already bought tons of games.

Hence the reason that I don't buy handheld games unless I think the developer deserves it.
I think you are misunderstanding the situation with this DSi XL. It's not like the PSPgo at all. It's just an amped up version of the DSi.

These are the specs, from the same article cinderboy linked in.

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4.2" screen, TFT color liquid crystal (260,000 colors)
Width 161.0mm
Length 91.4mm
Thickness 21.2mm
Stylus length: 96.0mm
Large stylus length: 129.3mm
Weight: 314g
Battery life: 4-5 hours maximum brightness, 13-17 hours minimum brightness
Charging time: 3 hours (when fully depleted)
*******--DS card slot******
--SD memory card slot
--AC adapter
--Stereo headphone/Microphone connected terminal


The new DSi XL has a DS card slot; It's backwards compatible and not download only. The non transfer problem only has to do with DSiware games purchased on one system cannot be transferred to another system, but isn't the case with DS games. It's the same with the Wii, there are Wii games you have to buy a hard copy of, such as Super Mario Galaxy or Zelda: Twilight Princess, and then there are WiiWare games which you buy with Wii shop points, such as A Boy and His Blob. Except in the case with the Wii, you can transfer your purchases from the Wii Shop if you back them up on an SD card.

The new DSi enhanced games should still work on a DS, but without the same quality. So unlike the PSPgo, which isn't backward compatible at all, no one is going to have to upgrade to the newest version unless they want to play DSiWare which most won't. DSiWare games are not going to be the same kind of quality as the mainsteam games coming out for the DS. Chances are, they are mostly going to be games from third parties such as web games like Bejeweled or something.

Sony might have screwed over people with their handheld, Nintendo did not.

Further confirmation is that they are still making games for the "DS", and not just "DSi" or "DSiWare" specific, such as Golden Sun, Rune Factory 3 and Okamiden. They talk about this stuff in GI all the time and mentioned that the developers are continuing to make games compatible with all DS handhelds; Pick up a copy and confirm.

No reason to not buy something because you've been misinformed.
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You misread. I was stating that, in general, they keep re-releasing handhelds and consoles with all of these new features and whatnot, most of which tend to make SOMETHING obselete. AKA "sup brah, we put more stuff in your stuff so you can spend your money while spending your money".

I'm not saying games are being solely made for the new reiterations either, just that some of the newer games obviously show they were slated more towards the higher RAM release. I don't know if you have played Nostalgia yet, but it suffers from a few severe slowdowns. There are a few others as well, but that is one of the newer games that has been released.
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lol Nintendo just need to admit they don't how to make system with a good 3d render like xbox and ps3
Woah, I just saw this

Can you say Gamecube or Prehaphs N64, If anything this this the first Nintendo system trying not to be competitive in Graphics along with it's handheld brother; The DS.

This has showed overwhelming success and each has delivered amazing games and content.

Saying something like this says something about your knowledge or that you're a ****ing arrogant tween.
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I hate adding/changing hardware features on consoles/handhelds. It really ****s over the market. They need to standardize it and stick with it.

Want to make a game that involves the camera? Well remember that only those ****ers with the DSi will have it. So don't expect any games that will actually make use of it. This is my MAIN problem with adding in new features AFTER the product has been on the market for years. No developer is even going to make use of it if not everyone has it. Why would they bother when they can make more sales making it available to everyone.

Hardware revisions are alright for the most part. Technology gets better and you can make up for costs and your product becomes more stable.

Take a look at the PSP though. Games that make use of the extra ram from the slim dont run as good as on a phat PSP. So the phat users got ****ed over for getting a PSP when it was released.

ARG I think im just raging now.

Basically Nintendo likes to **** people over. This is why I hate them. They rehash the same shit and sell it likes its god damn ****ing amazing and then everyone just gobbles it up claiming how Nintendo is the best out of all the console makers. What they dont realize is that Nintendo is jamming a dick up their *** by adding in gimicky shit and not actually revolutionizing anything. All the while re-using the same material they have been using for the past 20 years.

Well whatever, have fun with your DSi and the new version of Mario Kart with 6 new tracks and ALL YOUR OLD FAVORITE TRACKS FROM THE PAST MARIO KART games.

Bah, whatever. Didnt mean to kill your high guys
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I hate adding/changing hardware features on consoles/handhelds. It really ****s over the market. They need to standardize it and stick with it.

Want to make a game that involves the camera? Well remember that only those ****ers with the DSi will have it. So don't expect any games that will actually make use of it. This is my MAIN problem with adding in new features AFTER the product has been on the market for years. No developer is even going to make use of it if not everyone has it. Why would they bother when they can make more sales making it available to everyone.

Hardware revisions are alright for the most part. Technology gets better and you can make up for costs and your product becomes more stable.

Take a look at the PSP though. Games that make use of the extra ram from the slim dont run as good as on a phat PSP. So the phat users got ****ed over for getting a PSP when it was released.

ARG I think im just raging now.

Basically Nintendo likes to **** people over. This is why I hate them. They rehash the same shit and sell it likes its god damn ****ing amazing and then everyone just gobbles it up claiming how Nintendo is the best out of all the console makers. What they dont realize is that Nintendo is jamming a dick up their *** by adding in gimicky shit and not actually revolutionizing anything. All the while re-using the same material they have been using for the past 20 years.

Well whatever, have fun with your DSi and the new version of Mario Kart with 6 new tracks and ALL YOUR OLD FAVORITE TRACKS FROM THE PAST MARIO KART games.

Bah, whatever. Didnt mean to kill your high guys


Nah im jk lol.

But it seems that the reasons why you hate Nintendo is one of the main reasons why its so great.

True the 4 versions of the DS is a little much and I'm not going to disagree with that but their is nothing wrong with holding on to the franchises that Nintendo has been become known for.

What you consider to be rehash can also be viewed as keeping their franchises alive for the fans who still love them.If your a true Mario fan then you will never complain about Mario karts tracks or what not.

Been a Nintendo fan for years and i must have to say i dont feel the cock in my ***
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