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Old 11-04-2009, 09:39 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I don't even have to come up with anything, selective breeding is man forced evolution. Dogs are vastly different then they were before humans started domesticating them. If you want to pretend that we just captured dogs and made them our slaves and they auto evolved on their own into what they are now. Then go for it.


We did not catch dogs now.
We catched them thousand years ago and made them our slaves.
Over generations people turned them into "fluffy loving animals".
Some house hold animals do labor work.
They never said "no" because they cannot speak.

Yes , slavery.

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You're making a comparison between two totally different species with discrete emotional complexes in their brains - actually scratch that, totally different brains with completely different bonding experiences and mother and infant behavior, and so on and so forth.

There is no comparison.

You're not using my logic.

In fact, you're not using logic at all.

do not mess brains into this , this was about emotional attachment.
You cannot be attached to someone who you do not know , or never seen and met after xx years.

yes you can develop that attachment , but it is not about developing it , but having it in the moment when you see this person.
In this a human does not differ than a calf.

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Old 11-04-2009, 09:57 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Only in west china dogs are eaten, as far as I know.
i think right. They mostly eat dogs in the poorer parts of the country where other meat isn't readily available.

I don't like how the media always just pins eating and killing dogs to Chinese people. Some of the videos on Youtube claims to be showing "Chinese people killing and eating dogs", when it clearly did not take place in China (I would know, I'm fluent). I'm pretty sure Korea and Vietnam eat just as much or more than they do. I've also lived in China for quite a long time, and I've never eaten any dog meat in my life. o.o
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:02 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I have a friend with a pet pig. He eats pork. Whats wrong with that?
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:04 PM   #54 (permalink)
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I think you fail to realize the difference in cultures. Simple as that.
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:05 PM   #55 (permalink)
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it has nothing to do with being cruel.

we eat pigs and cows in america because it is food. people may still own pigs and cows as pets, but that doesnt stop making it tasty.

in china, dogs are food. dogs can be pets, but do you seriously think the dog killed in that video was a pet?

i see all this argument about dogs being "domesticated" and that fact gives us(americans) not to eat them. have you ever wondered WHY we domesticated dogs in the first place? because they could be put to use. they were domesticated to be TOOLS, not companions. what do you think dogs were before they were domesticated? they were food. it was not until long after we stopped eating them that we found out they could be companions.

now think of the amount of dogs in china running around. theres a limit to how many "companions" and "tools" a man can keep and i dont think theres a large budget in china's government for pounds and shelters. so what do you with the extra? eat them. duh.

and then i see people crying about the way they were killed. one, it shouldnt even matter since its gonna be eaten anyway. and two, "humane slaughtering" of animals isnt as profitable, thats why we dont even do it here(in america)
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:28 PM   #56 (permalink)
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do not mess brains into this , this was about emotional attachment.
You cannot be attached to someone who you do not know , or never seen and met after xx years.

yes you can develop that attachment , but it is not about developing it , but having it in the moment when you see this person.
In this a human does not differ than a calf.
You're telling me not to take brains into account in a discussion regarding the emotional capabilities of an animal?

Are you serious, or just trolling?
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:29 PM   #57 (permalink)
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You're telling me not to take brains into account in a discussion regarding the emotional capabilities of an animal?

Are you serious, or just trolling?
I'm fairly certain he's trolling.

Nobody in their right mind would claim dogs are anything other than companions, much less slaves.
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Nobody in their right mind would claim dogs are anything other than companions, much less slaves.
not to throw a spanner in the works but what about search and rescue dogs, guide dogs, guard dogs, drug dogs, bomb sniffers, sled dogs, racing dogs, fighting dogs and hunting dogs and I'm sure they have other uses.
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I dont understand why korean or chinese people love to kill dogs and eat them. I heard that from korean if you eat dog meat it raise your sexaul thing or whatever to men. I dont believe that shit they dont make sense never going to eat dog. Thier custom or whatever sucks im a shamed to be one of them...
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I dont understand why korean or chinese people love to kill dogs and eat them. I heard that from korean if you eat dog meat it raise your sexaul thing or whatever to men. I dont believe that shit they dont make sense never going to eat dog. Thier custom or whatever sucks im a shamed to be one of them...
please.... just go watch willy wonka and the chocolate factory (the new one) and listen to the quote "everything in this room is edible even me but that would be considered cannibalism and is frowned upon in many socities" however cannibalism still occurs in some parts of the world, but people might just not hear about it. Would you eat a human? probably not. Would some other people eat a human? Maybe. Just because its unethical in your opinion doesn't mean its unethical to everyone. You are not god, you are not influential, and you don't set the standards for anyone so don't come posting on onrpg just to get the sympathy of everyone against chinese people or whatever race/society/community etc.
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Some people don't eat beef because they think the cow is sacred i believe. I wonder if they rant on about why americans have mcdonalds/burger king/ wendys/fast food joints around killing, cooking, and selling cows for food by the pound. Ever think about that?
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