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gratscorpio

I am assuming you live in the uk?

If so yes banning handguns and having very stricy rules can make a difference to a country with a small poulation where it basically gets almost everythng through imports wich can be screened pretty well, it either sea ports or air ports so the imports for the main % can be streamlined and checked properly.

America is not a small country and banning hand guns wont do a damn thing cause it would be next to impossible to properly screen and manage all imports and activities.

That and banning hand guns and fire arms now would do little more than create one hell of a big mess where many will die and i mean many. Wanna try telling close to 300 million people that they have to turn their firearms over and "trust" the government...lol....we rebeled against britan cause we didnt trust the government in the first place, it unfortunetly is kind of an american thing that when we do not get our way we sorta make them see it our way

but yes banning firearms would be great if every person puts them down including the military/government, sorry im just not a big fan of "big brother" have an advantage over the people in any way shape or form (except taxes but thats a given in life sorta like death)

scorpio



and by the way your cops screwed up you dont just hand them you wallet you never never look them in the face ever if your just intending to hand everything over, if you dont know what they look like your better off just an fyi.

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Oisterboy

Yeah, but how long has that ban been active for? Here, the problem is already too bad. Everyone already HAS a gun.

Simply saying "hey, you guys can't have those guns anymore" isn't going to make the criminals turn in their guns.

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Norrin Radd

For ages.

It won't make criminals turn in their guns, but this isn't about criminals. It's about everyone. Criminals who use guns here get them somewhere.

The reason the gun crime is lower is because everyone else doesn't have one.

If everyone except the criminals, in the States, stopped having guns, the gun crime would drop. If you stopped selling them in Walmart, gun crime would drop.

The same people who say you can't change the constitution are the same who say "Ignore the Bible, it was written when those things were relevant.".

hobosexual

Handguns have only been banned since 1997 I thought.

And haven't handgun crimes increased since then?

Cingal

"Self-Defence" has not been an acceptable reason to own a gun since 1946 in the UK.

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hobosexual

But they weren't outright banned until 1997 right?

What were the acceptable reasons to own them before then?

Norrin Radd

Some nonsensical reason like; "If the government turns on you, you can protect your home.", probably.

I dunno, threw that one off the top of my head. I guess they realised that's actually never going to happen anywhere, so they disregarded it.

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Cingal

They're not outright banned, you can still own a shotgun, or a pistol if your in a line of work that requires it, or for a sport. It's rather strict, but, not impossible, most farmers own shotguns.

However, "Defence" is the main reason people tend to buy them.

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V-Opolis

so judging by the Laws of Storytelling and Exaggeration, youve been held up once?

please explain this bold part, i want to see this BS pour out of your internet connection...

gratscorpio

Yup civil wars are always so much more fun if it is not your country having them no thanks things are tense enough in the political social realm lets not light a match and throw it at the powder keg ok.

Again can't really use the stats from a country who population is alot less than ous that smaller populatuon would be and is alot easier to police and control especially sense everyhting you get is basically imports and can be easily managed to reduce the amount of illegal imports try doing that for a country the size of america lol ya not gonan happen.

united states 307,875,000 4.53% wp
united kingdom 61,634,599 0.91% wp

so first we would have to de arm 307 million people for the gun ban laws to be truly effective (won't happen of course) then we would have to properly police and strictly control a land mass easily 10 fold the size of the united kingdom not counting alaska and hawaii, as you can see pie in the sky ideals are just that pie in the sky ideals.

and on top of that you guys have had how many years of these gun ban laws and they were more than likly implemented when the average citizen was to poor to even see a gun let alone own a gun, so you got in befor the de arm the population thing would effect you.

ill admit you have a lower gun crime rate but then look at countries like south africa that have legislation outlawing gun and columbia ya guess what not legal to own a gun in columbie or most middle eastern countries as well.

and there gun crime rates are off the chart because they have had a voilent hisory yes but at the same time gun had all ready worked their way to far into those societies that even with legislation it would be impossible to remove all guns.(sam for america alot of people dont want to believe it but we have had and will more than likely have a violent past and future it will be our own downfall honestly)


all im saying is there are much worse countries where gun violence is alot worse and out of control, and most if not all countries that have legislation banning or making the aquirance of firearms hard have a relativly high fire arm crime rate for their populations.

scorpio

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