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Ronin · 11-20-2009, 06:41 PM

You know that Clinton said the same about cruise missiles?
The clean, precise way of warfere?

There is non;

Smart missiles had a over 50% rate of failure, in the main big chance of proving their worth in their appliance.
(They kinda vanished from the picture, right? They still use them, you just won't see any of that on TV anymore.)

Now the tech is the same, just applied against an immobile target, where you can pick the whole array of environmental parameters to get the best chance of striking and what you get is missiles that hardly get close to any effect.

Nonsue · 11-20-2009, 07:22 PM

All this talk about War is making meh bloodthristy.

That aside we should make a Poll about who can kick China's ***

corasked · 11-20-2009, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Espada1

Think of America like the protoss and China like the Zergs.

If China attack America unexpectedly and rush then China will win.

If America Tech and launch nukes then America wins.

protoss doesnt have nukes, i believe america is more towards terrain

SonicCebalo · 11-20-2009, 11:42 PM

Why does everyone start thinking about nukes when war is mentioned?

They won't be used.

nzrock · 11-21-2009, 12:36 AM

I wonder why no one mentioned this...

YouTube Video

the blue tanks in the end are amphibious tanks, and they do the slow motion march for around a hour or so around the whole area...
part2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Asl85OICoo

some more...

YouTube Video

female soldiers

YouTube Video

many more videos just by searching "China 60th Anniversary".

edit:

Land Forces video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn-Uu73zQTg
Air Forces and Nuclear Submarine Forces : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5aBsW604RA
Nuclear Missile Forces (has Unmanned Drones at 5:05): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W3v3eTVsk8

darkness35 · 11-21-2009, 01:03 AM

Just putting this out...

Does America even have the money to make an invasion against China? If I recalled, China was LOANING money to America because of the recession.

Edit: America lost enough money in Iraq. How can they even try against China?

SonicCebalo · 11-21-2009, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkness35

Just putting this out...

Does America even have the money to make an invasion against China? If I recalled, China was LOANING money to America because of the recession.

Edit: America lost enough money in Iraq. How can they even try against China?

Yeah thats about right I believe.
Iirc, America owes money in the billions.

Y80matt · 11-21-2009, 01:13 AM

Even if China's army isn't trained if push came to shove and we were at war they would most likely end up winning because they have enough people to make a human bridge across the ocean.

darkness35 · 11-21-2009, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y80matt

Even if China's army isn't trained if push came to shove and we were at war they would most likely end up winning because they have enough people to make a human bridge across the ocean.

Unless China drains resources from their land to just make an army, yeah probably not.

endgam3r · 11-21-2009, 01:20 AM

I lol'd real hard reading through these posts. I see alot of people looking down on China and pulling numbers out of their asses. The bottom line is neither side will win if China and the US ever go to war, both sides will be crippled beyond recovery and the little countries will jump on that chance to take power. Both China and the US very well know this. The US doesn't want a war with China and China doesn't want a war with the US. Just look at the past for answers. Numbers far out weigh the technologies. For example DDAY, not enough Germans to shoot all the allied soldiers that flooded that beach and what happen? The advanced Germans at that time got kicked back. But than again, numbers without strategies is no advantage. Only fools look down on another country/person without knowing the hard facts. And since we don't really know whats behind the curtains on both sides. this discussion is pretty much pointless.

The Art of War by Sun Tzu, 600 BC

Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance.

If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him.

There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare.

For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.

The best victory is when the opponent surrenders of its own accord before there are any actual hostilities... It is best to win without fighting.

In terms of economic advantage, China has the US by the balls. And why hasn't the US or UN taken out N. Korea yet?! N. Korea who had been testing long range missiles and making nuclear warheads. Its because N. Korea and China has strong ties. The US maybe number 1 at the moment, but if we let that arrogance get to our head, we won't be number 1 very long.

11-20-2009, 06:41 PM	#61 (permalink)
Ronin OnRPG Elite Member! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hitman Victor Posts: 4,779 Reputation: 297	You know that Clinton said the same about cruise missiles? The clean, precise way of warfere? There is non; Smart missiles had a over 50% rate of failure, in the main big chance of proving their worth in their appliance. (They kinda vanished from the picture, right? They still use them, you just won't see any of that on TV anymore.) Now the tech is the same, just applied against an immobile target, where you can pick the whole array of environmental parameters to get the best chance of striking and what you get is missiles that hardly get close to any effect. __________________ Stay frosty. Last edited by Ronin; 11-20-2009 at 06:53 PM.

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11-20-2009, 07:22 PM	#62 (permalink)
Nonsue Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Bahamas Posts: 691 Reputation: 12	All this talk about War is making meh bloodthristy. That aside we should make a Poll about who can kick China's ***

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SonicCebalo SuperKenshin's Servent Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,027 Reputation: 24	Why does everyone start thinking about nukes when war is mentioned? They won't be used.

11-21-2009, 01:13 AM	#68 (permalink)
Y80matt Marios's Mustache Wax Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 10 Reputation: 10	Even if China's army isn't trained if push came to shove and we were at war they would most likely end up winning because they have enough people to make a human bridge across the ocean.

11-21-2009, 01:20 AM	#70 (permalink)
endgam3r Marios's Mustache Wax Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5 Reputation: 0	I lol'd real hard reading through these posts. I see alot of people looking down on China and pulling numbers out of their asses. The bottom line is neither side will win if China and the US ever go to war, both sides will be crippled beyond recovery and the little countries will jump on that chance to take power. Both China and the US very well know this. The US doesn't want a war with China and China doesn't want a war with the US. Just look at the past for answers. Numbers far out weigh the technologies. For example DDAY, not enough Germans to shoot all the allied soldiers that flooded that beach and what happen? The advanced Germans at that time got kicked back. But than again, numbers without strategies is no advantage. Only fools look down on another country/person without knowing the hard facts. And since we don't really know whats behind the curtains on both sides. this discussion is pretty much pointless. The Art of War by Sun Tzu, 600 BC Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance. If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him. There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare. For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. The best victory is when the opponent surrenders of its own accord before there are any actual hostilities... It is best to win without fighting. In terms of economic advantage, China has the US by the balls. And why hasn't the US or UN taken out N. Korea yet?! N. Korea who had been testing long range missiles and making nuclear warheads. Its because N. Korea and China has strong ties. The US maybe number 1 at the moment, but if we let that arrogance get to our head, we won't be number 1 very long.