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Old 11-21-2009, 03:16 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Oh no. who will do the pledge of allegiance now!

Also lol gaywad. Personally he's still a kid so he shouldn't ruin his fun AS a kid to bring a point. Because most chances is no one will ever really listen.
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Old 11-21-2009, 03:33 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Because most chances is no one will ever really listen.
True, because we are too busy reading it online.

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Old 11-21-2009, 03:35 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I'm rather uneducated on the subject, but what about polygamy? (Devil's advocate here, I am not promoting polygamy in any way, obviously)

Isn't that similar to the gay situation? It's a lifestyle that some people would rather live, and yet the USA bans a man from having multiple wives.

I bet half of those "I couldn't care less what people do in the bedroom" people, who support gay rights, would scoff at the idea of polygamy. And yet, while they feel that the USA oppressing a certain set of people is wrong, they go ahead and do the same to bigamy.

Oh, and sorry if this is off-topic. I'm just curious.
Exactly the problem with this whole gay marriage situation. Where do we draw the line? It smells like populism.
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Old 11-21-2009, 03:39 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Exactly the problem with this whole gay marriage situation. Where do we draw the line? It smells like populism.
Well polygamy doesn't work too well with the current marriage system, if you have many wives, how to we share the money when you divorce ? How will their marriage bank account work ? But this problem isn't there with gay marriage since it's only one person :S Also, how come you can marry a perfect stranger of the opposite sex, but not someone of the same sex you've been with for, let's say, 10 years? :S

There's no LOGICAL reason not to allow gay marriage.
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Old 11-21-2009, 03:46 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Glad to see the youth standing up for something, even if the rest of his class doesn't.

Homophobia and Bigotry need to be combated as often as possible
IF men are gay, more girls for us. I see this as a good thing
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Old 11-21-2009, 04:04 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I thought the whole pledge thing only occured in films.
Nope they brain wash them every morning with that crap.

I can see singing the National Anthem before a baseball game, and shit like that...but school?
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Old 11-21-2009, 04:20 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Nope they brain wash them every morning with that crap.

I can see singing the National Anthem before a baseball game, and shit like that...but school?
When I went to America I had to attend an international school.

All us foreign students had to sing the national anthem every morning before school starts.


The funny thing though, when I visited an american military school, we didn't have to do that xD. . . .
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Old 11-21-2009, 04:20 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Yeah man when I was little they just taught you the pledge. You never really knew why the hell you had to do you just do it. But as I grew up I got annoyed and stop doing it. My teacher in high school said I don't have to say it but stand up at least. I did I respected her enough that I stood for it but didn't say it. But to be honest I still don't really know what it mean I just never bothered to look it up.
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Old 11-21-2009, 04:28 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Exactly the problem with this whole gay marriage situation. Where do we draw the line? It smells like populism.
And that's why it's such a comical situation: They only like to draw the lines when it suits their needs. I in no way shape and form advocate polygamy, but the same people who want to make homosexual marriage legal are as was stated, most likely against polygamy. Why is taking more than one wife wrong? They seem to fight so hard for the freedoms of others, why stop there? Let's give everyone every freedom.

And @Norrin: Where did I state in my first post that this had anything to do with rights? You just jumped to that conclusion. I was merely talking about the pledge and the right of others to not agree with homosexuality. That doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with any rights. Someone can be fully against an idea and that's that.

I still find it amusing how the opinion, in a free country I might add, of others is deemed wrong when it doesn't match mainstream belief.
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Old 11-21-2009, 04:29 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Well polygamy doesn't work too well with the current marriage system, if you have many wives, how to we share the money when you divorce ? How will their marriage bank account work ? But this problem isn't there with gay marriage since it's only one person :S Also, how come you can marry a perfect stranger of the opposite sex, but not someone of the same sex you've been with for, let's say, 10 years? :S

There's no LOGICAL reason not to allow gay marriage.
That's the point! It is not about "logic", it is about ideology. Different people have different perspective of how their want their country and world to be. They are all based on a group of axioms which cannot be logically derived (thus the word "axiom"). For instance, one could think: "In my ideal world, marriage is a beatiful tradition which glorifies an union between a man and a woman.

Here is some food for thought: would people advocating for gay marriage be content with having a form of "contract" which works basicly as marriage in the eyes of the law, but is not called "marriage"? I think not.
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