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Uh oh, Bush went to war with Iraq for very good reasons. PLUS CONGRESS COULD HAVE SAID, "HELL NO WE'RE NOT GOING TO WAR!"
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Think up better reasons before you call Bush an idiot...
You mean how he faked documents and out-right lied about WMDs, and made it so that congress had NO say on the war? |
Show me proof of fake documents that Bush made and you might be more believeable. Is intelligence always correct? Of course not. Congress had a say on the war, and they approved. They had the exact same intelligence on WMDs that Bush had. And they also said the exact same things, but you don't care about that. I'll give you some examples, then a link to the whole article.
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
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"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
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"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
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What the Democrats say about WMDs
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2. OKay, so now you're just hating some ones opinions. Every one is entitled to their opinions. Hell, a lot of religions are against gay marriage to. So do you hate those religions and think the people that follow it are idiots?
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You compleatly miss what he was saying.
People can think what ever they want about others, BUT THAT DOES NOT GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO CREATE DISCRIMATORY LAWS.
If instead of it being "Pass an amendment to ban same-sex marriage" it would be something like "Pass an amendment to ban interacial marriage", I'm sure you would be compleatly against it.
There is no difference between the two.
Each person is different, and they all think different. Thats a given. I'm not trying to make people to like gays. I'm trying to stop DISCRIMINATION. |
Is Bush trying to ban gay people all together? No. I don't really care if someone is gay, but if they try to be "married" then yes, I have a problem with it. If the amendment is passed, I believe each state then votes to follow it or not, then it is a democratic vote and then you can't complain about the outcome.
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And are you also aware that the religous right practiclly own congress?
And same with the Senate. Our system of checks and balances only works if there is a variation of control. If one party controls all three groups, IT DOES NOT WORK.
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That is completely idiotic. As the president, representatives, and senators are elected by the people, if the majority of Americans are Republicans, then why should the minority get just as much power? That's the same as saying, in a country of 1 million, and 900,000 of the people approve a law, then you say that you can't allow it because the other 100,000 would be unhappy? Lunacy.
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Now, the reasons that Bush is hated.
1: He illegaly spied on US citizins, WITHOUT A WARRENT, breaking the constitution, which is the highest form of law in the US
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Yes, Bush is using his phone in the Oval Office to listen to you talk to your Auntie Mabel.
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2: Vetoed a bill that would have sent embryos to labs to try and help save lives INSTEAD OF THE TRASH.
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"Help save lives" Rather than "do", which is what adult stem cells already are doing.
For example, a South Korean woman had been paralyzed for 19 years. She was able to walk again after she had an injection of umbilical cord stem cells into the injured part of her spine.
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3: Lied about the reason for war, and changed it about 3, 4 times.
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See first paragraph.
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4: Lost Osama
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Do you care that Clinton could have had him but let him go? And who says we've stopped looking for Osama? We've still got troops in Afghanistan.
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5: Left our ports wide open, and even gave control of our ports to the Sudies, and it's thier people that FLEW THE PLANES INTO THE TOWERS, and thier goverment has shown to have heavy connections to Osama.
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Do you advise we start a war with them too?
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6: Compleatly ignored Katrina for the first 24 hours.(he instead went to a party)
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That was FEMA's responsiblity. At least you aren't like some people who say that Bush caused the hurricane, or that he could've stopped it. Though what about the people who thought, "Let's just stay in our house, there won't be any damage or flooding."? Plus, I don't see any results on Google that Bush went to a party.
I'd talk about some more stuff, but I'm tired for now.
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