Old 02-10-2010, 12:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I don't see the appeal on spending money so my clothes and breath stink like ***.
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Old 02-10-2010, 01:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I have to disagree on some parts, like saying there is no benefit.
There is a benefit, however to mention that the negative effects are more.
Nicotine binds to nicotine acetylcholine receptors, which are responsible for euphoria and relaxation by probably usage of dopamine receptors.
Altho you will get addicted and will need it to feel good, initially you could say there is a benefit.

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No, not really.

Benefit suggests added positives, not placebo positives. Weed had many effects that add to your current mood. It doesn't permanently worsen your health to the point that when you smoke it, you feel better. Better here having the meaning of you being the same as before, except you're regularly worse off, so it feels better.

Simpler terms: cigarettes don't take you from 1 to 2, they take you from 1 to 0. Then, when you're continually at 0 because you use them, you need them to get back to 1, which now has the illusion of being "good".
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Old 02-10-2010, 01:24 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Well one benefit for people who want to lower their weight is that smokers lose their appetite to a certain extent.

Article: http://uninews.unimelb.edu.au/view.php?articleID=1898
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cigs = useless weed = usefull
thats my opinion
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Well one benefit for people who want to lower their weight is that smokers lose their appetite to a certain extent.

Article: http://uninews.unimelb.edu.au/view.php?articleID=1898
So instead of cholesterol you want to have lung cancer.
Smart move.
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So instead of cholesterol you want to have lung cancer.
Smart move.
Well, some people don't really care about long-term effects as long as they achieve their current vain ideals.

Also it does not necessarily only apply to fat people. It could possible apply to normal-weighted teenage girls that want to get thin.
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yeah i always smoke tobaco(samson) mixed with weed or hash. it tastes good and makes my brain go numb, i mix it well by not putting to much in it so i can still think about stat builds or shoot in a fps clearly, i wouldnt say it makes me better but for boring grinds it certainly helps.^^

i dont really care if its bad for my health, it just so happens it turned out to be a part of my life lol. growed up with it also + its legal to smoke pot/hash in the netherlands. also i dont bother other people with it so its ok imo.
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Old 02-10-2010, 02:10 PM   #18 (permalink)
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No, not really.

Benefit suggests added positives, not placebo positives. Weed had many effects that add to your current mood. It doesn't permanently worsen your health to the point that when you smoke it, you feel better. Better here having the meaning of you being the same as before, except you're regularly worse off, so it feels better.

Simpler terms: cigarettes don't take you from 1 to 2, they take you from 1 to 0. Then, when you're continually at 0 because you use them, you need them to get back to 1, which now has the illusion of being "good".
That is agreeable, however this is with all drugs isnt it?
Also you are saying that smoking weed every day wouldnt affect you at all?
Look at haagse sjonnie

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Smoking about what, 10 joints a day? Without it his hands are shaking...
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Well, some people don't really care about long-term effects as long as they achieve their current vain ideals.

Also it does not necessarily only apply to fat people. It could possible apply to normal-weighted teenage girls that want to get thin.
Who said smoking cigerettes only affects you in the long run?

It gives you bad breath, stains your teeth, your cardiovascular system is weakened and it increases the possibility of impotence (85% in males). Also, I notice, at least in Singapore and heavy smoking countries like China, that a lot of smokers tend to have to spit out phlegm that builds up in their throat. It's disgusting as hell.
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That is agreeable, however this is with all drugs isnt it?
Also you are saying that smoking weed every day wouldnt affect you at all?
Look at haagse sjonnie


Smoking about what, 10 joints a day? Without it his hands are shaking...
well it depends on who uses it lol. i dont think that guy would be much different if he didnt smoke weed xD man what an idiot. i really hate those kind of people. its good non dutch people cant hear what he says =p
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