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Dr.φιλοσοφία · 06-30-2010, 11:17 PM

Finally its about time we got pure fully powered electric cars back out into the world (originally GM had the first electric car but scraped later on). Tesla motors they have already released there first car which is too say very stylish and looking at the specs very impressive.

Top Speed: 125 mph (electronically limited)
Range: 245 miles
Expected Battery Life: Seven years or 100,000

For pictures take a look at http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-467196?hpt=Sbin

To really see and learn more about this go to http://www.teslamotors.com/

Hopefully we can see a change in our power market.

THE FUTURE (of cars) LOOKS GOOD

Ronin · 07-01-2010, 12:37 AM

I was thinking you were talking about those retarded magnetic motors.

@electric cars:
Eta_electric=Eta_mechanical * Eta_motor * Eta_battery * Eta_batteryloading * Eta_gird * Eta_plantlosses * Eta_carnot

That's not efficient, both economically and also environmentally; It's actually catastrophic.
The future looks bloody brilliant...

Bryan · 07-01-2010, 12:51 AM

Go go go oil lobbyists!

Ronin · 07-01-2010, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan

Go go go oil lobbyists!

Go and please buy an electric car.

If you trust it, if you know it works, if you can be sure it's environmentally the safer bet; Do it.

The taxpayer will be forced to subsidize your car (and the electric companies will pay for your extra emissions in hard cash), but we live in a Keynesian age, where building pyramids (brands) is proclaimed economically the better alternative to building schools.

Eusnon · 07-01-2010, 01:03 AM

Not as gay as I thought it'd look (Kinda stealing certain cars designs but anyhew : 3)...

I think we need to go with something other than electricity for cars tho.

jheego · 07-01-2010, 01:05 AM

it's very interesting dude, what will happen to that cars Top Speed: 125 mph (electronically limited)
Range: 245 miles
Expected Battery Life: Seven years or 100,000. .

Ronin · 07-01-2010, 01:11 AM

Well, it's pretty simple a picture;
First off, if the energy is chemically bound in a accumulator, or in a primary energy containing fuel, leaves one with the obvious choice of the fuel (higher energy density, as well as the advantage of using air as one of the components of the oxidation).

A "battery" never can theoretically win, so it's retarded to pursue it (see below).

Secondly, the problem of combustion engines is that the efficiency is limited by temperature ranges.

This means that the fuel needs to be run through some sort of cell, that can take care of the electron transport (from for example the air to CH4), without combustion.

This is a concept that has an actual edge against an internal combustion engine.

However, we can also just use an accumulator instead, which is all this in a tight package, with the disadvantage of the need of a fuel which allows you to reverse the reaction, which leaves you with few choices, that are on the scale ranging from very bad to catastrophically inferior compared to even the "not so good" internal combustion engine. That's what you have in the electric car.

Order of efficiency that can be achieved, which translates to low environmental impact and high economic value is as follows:
fuel cell > hybrid (fuel cell before electric) > internal combustion > plug in hybrid > pure plug in

stevecrandall97 · 07-01-2010, 01:54 AM

Never go green!!! Never surrender!!!

Dr.φιλοσοφία · 07-01-2010, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronin

Well, it's pretty simple a picture;
First off, if the energy is chemically bound in a accumulator, or in a primary energy containing fuel, leaves one with the obvious choice of the fuel (higher energy density, as well as the advantage of using air as one of the components of the oxidation).

A "battery" never can theoretically win, so it's retarded to pursue it (see below).

Secondly, the problem of combustion engines is that the efficiency is limited by temperature ranges.

This means that the fuel needs to be run through some sort of cell, that can take care of the electron transport (from for example the air to CH4), without combustion.

This is a concept that has an actual edge against an internal combustion engine.

However, we can also just use an accumulator instead, which is all this in a tight package, with the disadvantage of the need of a fuel which allows you to reverse the reaction, which leaves you with few choices, that are on the scale ranging from very bad to catastrophically inferior compared to even the "not so good" internal combustion engine. That's what you have in the electric car.

Order of efficiency that can be achieved, which translates to low environmental impact and high economic value is as follows:
fuel cell > hybrid (fuel cell before electric) > internal combustion > plug in hybrid > pure plug in

You just hate the world dont you.

Focus on the bad things in life and all you will end up is a bad life.

eripmav08 · 07-01-2010, 05:34 AM

cool speed..

07-01-2010, 12:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ronin OnRPG Elite Member! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hitman Victor Posts: 4,923 Reputation: 302	I was thinking you were talking about those retarded magnetic motors. @electric cars: Eta_electric=Eta_mechanical * Eta_motor * Eta_battery * Eta_batteryloading * Eta_gird * Eta_plantlosses * Eta_carnot That's not efficient, both economically and also environmentally; It's actually catastrophic. The future looks bloody brilliant... __________________ Stay frosty. Last edited by Ronin; 07-01-2010 at 12:43 AM.

07-01-2010, 12:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
Bryan SCARY Join Date: May 2007 Location: United States Playing: Smashmuck Champions Posts: 13,803 Reputation: 443	Go go go oil lobbyists! __________________ SWAG $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

07-01-2010, 01:11 AM	#7 (permalink)
Ronin OnRPG Elite Member! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hitman Victor Posts: 4,923 Reputation: 302	Well, it's pretty simple a picture; First off, if the energy is chemically bound in a accumulator, or in a primary energy containing fuel, leaves one with the obvious choice of the fuel (higher energy density, as well as the advantage of using air as one of the components of the oxidation). A "battery" never can theoretically win, so it's retarded to pursue it (see below). Secondly, the problem of combustion engines is that the efficiency is limited by temperature ranges. This means that the fuel needs to be run through some sort of cell, that can take care of the electron transport (from for example the air to CH4), without combustion. This is a concept that has an actual edge against an internal combustion engine. However, we can also just use an accumulator instead, which is all this in a tight package, with the disadvantage of the need of a fuel which allows you to reverse the reaction, which leaves you with few choices, that are on the scale ranging from very bad to catastrophically inferior compared to even the "not so good" internal combustion engine. That's what you have in the electric car. Order of efficiency that can be achieved, which translates to low environmental impact and high economic value is as follows: fuel cell > hybrid (fuel cell before electric) > internal combustion > plug in hybrid > pure plug in __________________ Stay frosty. Last edited by Ronin; 07-01-2010 at 01:46 AM.

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07-01-2010, 01:03 AM	#5 (permalink)
Eusnon Sun? What Sun? Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 971 Reputation: 26	Not as gay as I thought it'd look (Kinda stealing certain cars designs but anyhew : 3)... I think we need to go with something other than electricity for cars tho.

07-01-2010, 01:05 AM	#6 (permalink)
jheego Fat Bowser Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 191 Reputation: 10	it's very interesting dude, what will happen to that cars Top Speed: 125 mph (electronically limited) Range: 245 miles Expected Battery Life: Seven years or 100,000. .

07-01-2010, 01:54 AM	#8 (permalink)
stevecrandall97 Still learning the ropes Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 26 Reputation: 10	Never go green!!! Never surrender!!!

07-01-2010, 05:34 AM	#10 (permalink)
eripmav08 McFox Sandwich Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: philippines Posts: 472 Reputation: 10	cool speed..