Wrath

Yes found it. Thanks for the guide.

olaph

i guess i could sticky it O.o

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VietPride4

for dragons should i go mana ring or mana arrow and in for the status do i only train MA?

kazoo

I prefer Mana arrow. They eventually get the Skill Arrow Rush and that pure owns. And yes, MA all the way.

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RpgKylon

2nd job cats raise DP so I suggest putting a DP build on there. Bumping this cause your awesome

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Gasproblem

Is this a good Buffalo 4114 build?

lvl10/master burning rave
lvl10/master pumping heart
lvl10/bullseye (unlocks hyper beat)
lvl 10/hyper beat (unlocks sonic beat, which unlocks shinobi combo, 2nd job skill)
lvl10/master lacerator
lvl10/master berserk
lvl10/master brandish slay
lvl1/ sonic beat
lvl10/master shinobi combo (5 hit combo)

I did play in the Closed Beta but all my characters were deleted and I'm a little rusty when it comes to skill builds.

TwinkeeBoy

For the Lion Skill Build, I would suggest getting Stone Strike in the beginning, because you don't have a gun for the first 15 levels. So you're going to be fighting with a sword with pure AC, which results in weak damage. Stone Strike helps you for the levels 5 - 15, and even to 25 because you stop reloading when you get attacked, unless you do hit and run like a mage.

In other words, Stone Strike to 10 in the beginning.

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manicmelanie

I just joined and wanted to say hi to everyone. Also, I noticed that the forum runs off my screen.

Anyone else notice that?

melanie

niwi77

Very very bad idea especially for a gunner lion, because the gun carrier will cost you 5 skill pts then if you get ss to 10 that means you will have spent more than 15 because it takes i believe 2 skills pts to learn ss so it's 16 pts to get to lvl 10. By lvl 20 then you spend another 5 on invinsible reload and that's 21, you will not have enough skill pts to max your gun booster at lvl 30. And gun booster at max adds about 400 damg to ur gun that's like going from 200 damg all the way 600 damg which is triple of ur original damg.

Another thing, it is adviced that you do not max ss and get armor destruction to get lucky seven because you will get ur power shot at ur second job. And power shot when maxed increases ur damg tremendously and that's basically what you will use to lvl all the way through the game, good damg, descent mana cost and GOOD DAMAGE!! >.<

Also about the lion build... we know that every 1 ac pt will give our gun a boost of 20 damg so that means if ur ac is 30 that's 30 x 20 which is 600 damg but i'm not sure how this works cause i made a lion to test this out and my ac was like 60 something but i only did 300+ damg so i'm not sure about this but i know for a fact that every time your ac increases, ur damage increases by 20, However i'm not talking about the lvl of ac increasing, i'm talking about the number beside the lvl, the one with for example 50+0 or 60+3. I could not confirm why a lion with >60 ac pts did not do over 600 damg without the help of gun booster... if anyone knows, mind explaining to me?

Ok >.> i figured it out >.< but basically you start out with 50+0 ac pts and your damg with the gun is 20 damg at that time, basically 50 will be our 0 and when ur ac is 60 that means u will do 20 x 10 = 200 +20 damg which is 220 damg. Also ur ac pt increases by 1 every 4 lvls. Ok, now i will compare the damg between the different builds, let's say that you have the 1144 build and u put all ur pts into ac, you will end up with lvl 125 ac at lvl 100 so therefore 125/4 = 31.25, it's 31x20+20 = and 620 damg at lvl 100 considering you get no help from equip or skills.

Next the 2143 build, putting all pts into ac, we get 150 at lvl 100 which is 150/4 = 37.5 and 37x20+20 = 760, increased by 140 damg from the 1144 build. IMO this 140 damg is almost negligible at that lvl.

Next the 3142 build we get 175 at lvl 100, 175/4 = 43.75, 43x20+20 = 880 damg which is 260 more damg above the 1144 build and 120 damg from the 2143 build.

And now my personal favourite build and this build is only for those who likes to see big numbers on themselves as well as the enemies :P, anyways the 4141 build, all DAMG!!! ok 200 ac lvls at lvl 100, 200/4 = 50 which is 1020 damg at lvl 100. increasing your damg by 400!!! from the 1144 build, by 260from the 2143 and 140 from the 3142 build.

Ok now let's do this at lvl 50, 1144 = 320 damg, 2143 = 390 damg, 3142 = 450 and 4141 = 520 damg so i think the 2143 is not really the best build, infact i believe it's the least effective build so either go with the 1144 build and put all pts into ac or the 3142 build, all ac or the 4141 build.

Btw: i realized that your ap affects ur gun damg even tho ppl say it does not but in fact ur ap does affect ur gun damg >.< but very very slightly, it's somewhere around 38 damg when u add 30 to ur ap pts. so bascially it's not even 2 damg per pt of ap. However it does add damg to ur gun.

Going back to the 4141 build, at lvl 100 u'll get lvl 100 ap (to my knowledge i think u gain one ap every lvl?) however i cannot be sure since i don't really care about my ap, i don't pay attention to it :P anyways that means ur damg will increase from 1020 to maybe somewhere around 1120 damg. However i cannot be sure about this, but i remembered my damg did increase when i changed my +10 ap gun to my +40 ap gun and so forth, therefore i believe ur damg does increase with ap >.<

CujoEX

This should be unpinned. It's far beyond obsolete and is very misleading.

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