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Old 11-17-2010, 02:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Is anything physically infinite?

it seems like Infinity just just an imaginary existence. Scientist suggest the universe is finite, so i supposed if this is true, nothing is infinite.

(random) we as humans think and wonder too much, though it is a gift to have knowledge, i have a feeling it will be our downfall. Yet we still say curiosity killed the cat.
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Old 11-17-2010, 04:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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No. Nothing is finitely infinite.

And your last sentence at the end of your penultimate sentence makes little sense and the whole thing was punctuated weirdly.
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Old 11-17-2010, 04:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 11-17-2010, 04:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 11-17-2010, 05:14 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Existance is infintie.

Time is infinite.

Numbers are infinite.

Just because we die or can't think that far ahead doesn't mean things stop there.

Inb4 someone tries to debate with me. I've said my piece and am not going to bother saying more.
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:26 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I agree with Arri. As we move into the realm of the metaphysical.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:04 AM   #7 (permalink)
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As far as I know, we have never observed anything to be infinite except as in intellectually fashioned, non-physical concepts(such as the mathematical concept of infinity), therefore I'm of the opinion that there is no point in firmly believing there is, at this current time.

Just because something is imaginable to us, does not make it a workable position in terms of understanding.
Personally I am at loss to understand the term infinity at all - To me, the moment we speak of "infinity", we're no longer speaking of physical reality, as a reality that actually has a "physical" infinity is completely paradoxical and nonsensical.
I.E, I think we can safely say that infinity is a concept that is meaningless in understanding the physical reality, and thus also meaningless to human understanding in general as we are situated in, and limited by, that very physical reality.

It might exist in some "deeper sense"(whatever that means), or it might not. But as far as science goes, and as far as human intellect goes, IMO it's just a useless term that people with limited imagination and curiosity used to label large and complex issues beyond their current understanding.

To me, using the word "infinity" is just as redundant as inserting religious ikons or explanations when faced with an unknown - It does not actually explain anything, and just ends up begging a tons of new questions that will probably just lead you away from any usefull knowledge since you're being distracted from the main issue.
This generally tends to happen if you jump to a erroneous conclusion from your initial question.
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Also - what about this "matter can not be created or destroyed, only changed"?

Maybe the universe. Isn't it always expanding? Or is it always just moving? I dunno, I've heard so many theories I'm not sure which one is the accepted one.
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Old 11-17-2010, 02:15 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Existance is infintie.

Time is infinite.

Numbers are infinite.

Just because we die or can't think that far ahead doesn't mean things stop there.

Inb4 someone tries to debate with me. I've said my piece and am not going to bother saying more.
Once we're all dead there will be no one to ascribe meaning to anything like existence or time or numbers, the idea of infinity is pretty dumb in practice.
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Old 11-17-2010, 02:21 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Once we're all dead there will be no one to ascribe meaning to anything like existence or time or numbers, the idea of infinity is pretty dumb in practice.
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Just because we die or can't think that far ahead doesn't mean things stop there.
He defeated your argument there already.
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