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Originally Posted by iMicro
Good job, you just proved that comics are beneficial to 2 year olds, so are pop-up books. Why don't we read comics in school then? Why must we read books?
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There is a specific Marvel range that is aimed at younger readers, I highlighted this and you chose to ignore it in favour of making a truly ludicrous point that leads nowhere.
The fact that he even got something out of those proves that you can learn from them. You said they do not help reading or comprehension; that's a flawed argument on many levels.
1) We're not talking about babies here, we're talking about comics for young teens to adults. The kind that myself and many others here would read. If you need help with reading comprehension at THIS age, then you have bigger problems. When I read novels it doesn't advance my reading comprehension because...I'm a perfectly capable reader anyway.
2) The range for Marvel aimed at really young kids still clearly have elements that they can learn from. However, it's stupid to even discuss this because those are not the kind of comics I'm talking about. Obviously THOSE are for kids because they're aimed at kids. Only kids that young would need help with reading comprehension, and they factually can help. Again, you're 100% wrong.
If you can't formulate an argument and stick to the correct track and cases in point, please save yourself further embarrassment.
"You can't further your reading comprehension.", "My nephew has learned and advanced his reading and interpretation from the kids' Marvel comics.", "HAH! So even two year olds like them.". Stupid thing to say.
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Originally Posted by iMicro
How is that a bad thing? That's a good thing.
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It's neither bad nor good, but it certainly doesn't prove movies are way more creative and productive. They cost more, they are limited to a timeframe etc. You've already conceded this point, so it's silly to argue.
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Originally Posted by iMicro
Do you ever see people spend ~$275 on a novel? I'm sure there are MANY people out there who spend that much money on comics. Once you get into them enough, you kind of get brainwashed into spending that much, blame the medium, not yourself.
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I'm not brainwashed into anything, I spend what I want to spend on what I wish to spend it on.
It's not the comics fault, there is NO fault here because there is no wrongdoing. You've actually run out of points and debate foundation to the point that you're telling ME why I spend money on comics. I spend money because it gives me joy and inspiration, not because I am brainwashed. FACT. 100%, undeniable, stone-wall fact. It's me we're talking about, so you don't have a say. Sorry.
Leave the debate if that's what you're resorting to, it's embarrassing. Seriously, it is. If I were you and I saw MYSELF debating so desperately, I'd be ashamed.
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Originally Posted by iMicro
I claimed that movies were a more productive medium than comics? Really? Where? I said books were.
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You implied it by suggesting them as an alternative to comics ALONG with books.
Books being more productive is entirely relative. They take longer to make, for example and all of that time and money is put into ONE book.
There's no right or wrong in the debate as to whether books or comics are more productive, because that depends on what you feel they produce. You feel you get way more out of books. I get more out of some comics than I do out of books, I get more out of books than I do out of some comics.
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Originally Posted by iMicro
(offtopic) To be honest, the reason it's a cult hobby is because if you don't know anything about them it's almost impossible to get into them. Comics could be a lot more mainstream if it weren't for this.
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If that were true, nobody would be into them. Chicken Vs Egg.
Not everyone who has been into comics has been into them from the start. It's not impossible to get into comics. You LEARN about them by getting into them, so it's nonsense to say that you can't get into them because you don't know anything. You either know nothing because you aren't interested, or you know nothing because you haven't tried. It takes trying and effort to gain the knowledge.
Your argument is eating itself there, I'm afraid.
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I'm not mad, I just think you're not making any sense.
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That's because you are wrong in just about everything you say and are clearly beyond the reach of anything I've said. For what reason? I know not. No matter what facts or logic I provide you with, you seem intent on trying to discredit the medium, and you fail, because nothing you say holds up under scrutiny.
On that note; I want you to tell me what your experience with comics is. I want title names and if you can, years you were into them. Trust me when I say I'll know if you're lying.