Old 12-14-2006, 09:22 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I said PERSONALITY WISE. Solid has cool dialogue, but GrayFox's lines are still the ones i remember.
My bad, I shoulda taken my own advice and made a point of making sure to really pay attention to what I was reading. I agree, Gray Fox is one of the greatest characters of all time. "An undying shadow, in a world of lights."
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Old 12-14-2006, 09:58 PM   #52 (permalink)
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At the current point in the series, Solid has accomplished way more hardcore deeds than Big Boss, sheer fact. Until Big Boss proves otherwise through some more prequels or something, Solid is the most hardcore character in the series and therefore 1337er than Big *****.

When you kick someone's ***, you prove you are physically superior to them. Solid kicked Liquid's silver haired ***** *** royally, therefore he is the superior fighter of the two. I don't care if your head isn't in the game and you think you're weaker, that's part of combat, and he lost. And anyone trying to argue someone that gets beaten by a Metal Gear Solid 2 era Raiden is a chump to the max, so Solidus isn't superior to one of my turds even.
Sheer opinion is more like it. =/
Seeing as all the games have had Snake in the spotlight some way or another, there is no way for you to deduce something like that, without first getting to know Naked Snake or any of the things he's done after he killed The Boss and earned the title BigBoss. There's simply not enough evidence.

Any way you put it, all of his clones, or children, up until now have regarded him as the superior to themselves - as well as the members of FoxHound. All you can go by is the story Hideo set forth, so I'd suggest forgetting about your 'book'. It doesn't really count in this conversation. =/

Side-Note: Everything you do is 90% mental and only 10% mental.The way you think influences the way you do everything. Even down to the way you breathe at night.

Side-Note 2: Snake never beat Liquid. Ever. Even after blowing him up, knocking him off a thirty foot tall mech, shooting the shit out of him, and then giving him a skull cracking headbutt, not once, but three times, he never died. In the end, it was the virus that killed him.
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Old 12-15-2006, 02:42 AM   #53 (permalink)
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solid...he can snap necks better than sam lol..
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Old 12-15-2006, 02:52 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Am I thre only person here who has yet to play a MGS game?

I've read some Splinter Cell books, all being great. Sam = win.
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Old 12-15-2006, 12:53 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Sheer opinion is more like it. =/
Seeing as all the games have had Snake in the spotlight some way or another, there is no way for you to deduce something like that, without first getting to know Naked Snake or any of the things he's done after he killed The Boss and earned the title BigBoss. There's simply not enough evidence.

Any way you put it, all of his clones, or children, up until now have regarded him as the superior to themselves - as well as the members of FoxHound. All you can go by is the story Hideo set forth, so I'd suggest forgetting about your 'book'. It doesn't really count in this conversation. =/

Side-Note: Everything you do is 90% mental and only 10% mental.The way you think influences the way you do everything. Even down to the way you breathe at night.

Side-Note 2: Snake never beat Liquid. Ever. Even after blowing him up, knocking him off a thirty foot tall mech, shooting the shit out of him, and then giving him a skull cracking headbutt, not once, but three times, he never died. In the end, it was the virus that killed him.
Well for one, as far as the MGS series goes, at this point Big Boss actually has potentially more hours of gameplay dedicated to himself because Solid is only featured as the main character in the whole of MGS1 and about half of MGS2. Where as Big Boss is featured as the main character for the entirety of MGS3 and MGS: Portable Ops. So if anything, Big Boss has more available evidence than Solid.

Michael Jordan doesn't consider himself to be the greatest basketball player of all time, but he still is. Some people are humble, just because you consider someone to be your superior, doesn't mean you haven't surpassed them.

Your first side note is utter bull because no matter how much I believe I could just jump up in the air and start flying, it's not gonna happen.

And as for side note 2, you don't have to kill someone to defeat them. If that were the case, most martial artists, boxers, and fighters in general would be considered undefeated simply because they're still alive.
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:07 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Your first side note is utter bull because no matter how much I believe I could just jump up in the air and start flying, it's not gonna happen.
Influences the way you go about doing things. How do I fly? Hmm I'll flap my arms.

*Flaps arms in desperate attempt to fly*
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