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Saneless

Eek without politics, there would be no protection

*hobo you never pmed me back about the cs account *

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Hellsing64

Political Freedom, violence is an alteranative way if something is control by tyrant such as killing the innocence .I strongly agreed with Freedom rather going over Iraq and been such in chaos.Its Muslim world let them be but i also have to blame those muslim to make western involved into there affaird or the other way around western being involved too much with Islamic. They already beaten the western during crusade what else do they want?. Muslim keep refering as a Holy war...? Holy war ended once they defeated the European crusade.

I know Bush is hidden something from American and i know alot of you want the truth. What really whats going on Before Bush become the president,Prisident Cliton was sometime involved in againts terrorist.

Well anyhow i don't know much about Politics even though here Massachusetts politics is mayor and the most talked in state.So that all i got to say...

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Uskae

Physical Security, any day.

Think of it this way: If someone put a gun to your head and said that if you spoke bad about the government they'd kill you, but if you didn't they'd leave you alone, what would you choose.

If you would shut up about the government to save your life, you would have decided that your physical security is more important then your political freedom.

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Hellsing64

That mean you don't have the power to speak or tell them what wrong or what right. Pointing gun at me i will speak out no matter what if i dislike the gorvement the bad decision they made of couse i will talk about it. If they steal my money yeah i will speak up.I woudn't back down is an reason to fight whats right.Freedom is way of life...i will fight the gorverment if they turn out to be tyrant pointing a gun to take out a innocence.

Don't get too worked out man just me opposing your choice...

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Ramstien

I'll take the one America doesn't have.

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FabianN

The thing is, security is non-exsistant without freedom.

Without freedom our government is free to treat us as it wants. It could turn us all into slaves if our government so desired without freedom. In fact, the very IDEA behind our bill of rights is for it act as a piece of SECURITY for the people against our government.
I did an essay on this matter, and I found a few interesting things out.

On the transcript of the Bill of Rights it says:
“The Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers…”
In his letter to James Madison, Tomas Jefferson describes the Bill of Rights as “what the people are entitled to against every government on earth, general or particular”


Our freedom is our security.

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Hellsing64

Yeah Freedom give birth to protection i can't denied that.

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Manic

Not when you've got a war going on. Lincoln even recognized that, and went so far as to suspend the writ of Habeas Corpus during the civil war. That's taking things farther even than the Patriot Act.

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