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Danke · 01-05-2007, 01:44 AM

First of all your taking words out of context dude. You won't listen to what I have to say and make fun of my english grammer instead? I mean wtf dude....why bother trying to reason with you when all you do is make fun of me. I clearly said the only way people can help these people is if the are involved with them, that simple. I don't care if your a doctor , i don't care if your fighter, i don't give a **** if you a political advisor, or simply in the peace core, you can be anything i don't give a **** because thats not the point. The point I was making is that you can not throw cash at homeless person and say hey work things out. The people in darfur are more ****ed than a homeless person, so no matter how money collected its not going to do anything. I will no reply any more because its worthless repeating myself who won't even take what i say seriously.

Fieren · 01-05-2007, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Danke

First of all your taking words out of context dude. You won't listen to what I have to say and make fun of my english grammer instead? I mean wtf dude....why bother trying to reason with you when all you do is make fun of me. I clearly said the only way people can help these people is if the are involved with them, that simple. I don't care if your a doctor , i don't care if your fighter, i don't give a **** if you a political advisor, or simply in the peace core, you can be anything i don't give a **** because thats not the point. The point I was making is that you can not throw cash at homeless person and say hey work things out. The people in darfur are more ****ed than a homeless person, so no matter how money collected its not going to do anything. I will no reply any more because its worthless repeating myself who won't even take what i say seriously.

Because we ARENT throwing cash at them. Since we cant personally help them, we send money to people that CAN personally help and WILL personally help if we see to it. And I wouldn't give a flying chinchilla shit if you couldn't even put together a coherent sentence in this arguement, your posts and opinions are just flat out confusing to me, period.

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why bother trying to reason with you when all you do is make fun of me.

I smell overrexagerration.

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The point I was making is that you can not throw cash at homeless person and say hey work things out.

What kind of idiot would do that? More like

Dave- Here's some cash, buy a suit and get yourself a job. The nearest soup kitchen is five blocks down ______ lane from here. God bless or whatever ism you chose.

ArucardX · 01-05-2007, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by FabianN

First, the amount that we give to causes like AIDs, world starvation, and any other cause, isone of the lowest percentage of any first world country, and most often is in the bottom 10 of all donaters. When the Tusami hit, little Germany gave more money than the US did.

If you are talking about the Tsunami in 2004, and I'm not saying Wikipedia is always right but it shows Germany pledged around 690M USD and United States is listed at 900M. Does this mean US didn't live up to even surpassing 690M?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanit...ean_earthquake

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It's like this.
Take two people, one makes $50 a week, the other $50000 a week.
the $50 a week guy donates $5 of every paycheck to a good cause.
The $50000 a week guy donates $6 of every paycheck.
Yea, the 50000 guy donates more then the 50 guy, but who's really doing more to help?

Who's doing more to help? The 6$... who's sacrificing more? The 50$ a week.

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And another fun fact about when we did send food to the Tusami victims, it was food like mac and cheese, food that required heat, clean water, and other items that the people did not have access too. Practically none of the food that were sent to the Tusami victims were used, simply because they couldn't use it.

heh, so what, it was dumb, get over it. You act like they would waste the food on purpose. Is this the US governments fault directly?

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A good example of how much of a luxury we live in.
If you took the food that is thrown away in the US in a period of a week, it would end world hunger for half a year.

Everyone has heard of this one before. If it was all eaten then the country would have a higher obesity rate haha You act like if it wasnt thrown away it would appear into the hands of those hungry. Oh and where do you get these calculations? How much food for each person would this involve?

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But I got to say the biggest problem here is that the media does not tell anyone about it.
People NEED to KNOW about this, they need to know about the horrors that is happening over there.
The Darfur conflict is one of the largest least known humanitarian disaster in world history, and in a age where information can travel across the world in secounds.
Really what needs to be done, is everyone here needs to tell their parents, their neighbors, their friends. Tell everyone of whats happening.

Have you spoken out to your community? Telling your neighbors, parents and friends?

Slade · 01-05-2007, 03:49 AM

MY GOD! SINCE WHEN WAS I TALKING ABOUT AMERICA?! ****ing hell, you guys are so self involved about your own country. When i say, help out, i dont mean America. And since when did America have to fix everything? What about the UN. And even they dont give a shit. Jesus christ, someone lock this. I wanted to help, to educate some of the relcuses out here in the internet but all you do is start an argument for no reason. Not all of you are like this, mind you.

FabianN please do everyone a favour and lock this. This is just pitiful.

If this is how people react to things like these then maybe it is better the media didn't tell them.

ncyphe · 01-05-2007, 05:52 AM

note, in response to lack of time, I skipped through to post an opinion
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In my opinion, this is not shameless advertising, but the way the thread starter worded it makes it so.

General threads ussually are asking people about their opinions or response to something; this is just asking us to check out the site in hopes of aiding a charity.

Not to mention when you say "educate" it makes the forum readers sound like idiots, which is 80% not true.

Ultimately, if you had posted a bit of information as to how you, yourself, felt about the situation, it would then fit under this category, but for now, the thread absolutly reads like a shameless promes, even if it really is to help a charity.

Just my opinion, though.

FabianN · 01-05-2007, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ArucardX

Have you spoken out to your community? Telling your neighbors, parents and friends?

Not only that, but I have participated in local community rallys where we go around downtown and tell people about the genocide.
I actually practice what I preach.

Stabkiller0 · 01-05-2007, 08:41 AM

Anyone seen the movie Hotel Rwanda?

god its horrible and depressing I was crying at the end.

Slade · 01-05-2007, 10:26 AM

Thank you ncyphe. I didn't think on it that way. But technically i am 'educating' the forum goers here with an incredible problem. But i dont get where they gleaned the info of me talking about america specifically, and not the rest of the world too.

And Arucard, you got owned. BIGTIME. Im glad to see someone like FabianN here. Its a shame i dont practice what i preach, but at least i help a tad

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YuckYuck · 01-05-2007, 11:10 AM

Hmm... Just a little opinion.

It is not how much you give, but how much you are willing to give that makes a difference.

Sounds pretty much the same but there is a thin line of difference between both statements.

The Holy Cross · 01-07-2007, 02:36 AM

Oh and there definately wasn't any genocide going on in Iraq. Anyone here heard of a group in northern Iraq called the Kurds? Saddam Hussein killed thousands of Kurds because they are a Christian people. America has definately tried to stop genocide before.

The only reason why people are making such a big deal out of Darfur not being invaded is because Bush hasn't done it. People will do anything they can to fight against Bush.

01-05-2007, 03:49 AM	#34 (permalink)
Slade Eriond's Egotist Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,733 Reputation: 17	MY GOD! SINCE WHEN WAS I TALKING ABOUT AMERICA?! ***ing hell, you guys are so self involved about your own country. When i say, help out, i dont mean America. And since when did America have to fix everything? What about the UN. And even they dont give a shit. Jesus christ, someone lock this. I wanted to help, to educate some of the relcuses out here in the internet but all you do is start an argument for no reason. Not all of you are like this, mind you. FabianN please do everyone a favour and lock this. This is just pitiful. If this is how people react to things like these then maybe it is better the media didn't tell them. Last edited by Slade; 01-05-2007 at 04:06 AM.*

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YuckYuck McFox Sandwich Join Date: May 2006 Location: ^LaLa^land Posts: 468 Reputation: 10	Hmm... Just a little opinion. It is not how much you give, but how much you are willing to give that makes a difference. Sounds pretty much the same but there is a thin line of difference between both statements. __________________

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01-05-2007, 01:44 AM	#31 (permalink)
Danke Lockhart’s are forever Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 390 Reputation: 10	First of all your taking words out of context dude. You won't listen to what I have to say and make fun of my english grammer instead? I mean wtf dude....why bother trying to reason with you when all you do is make fun of me. I clearly said the only way people can help these people is if the are involved with them, that simple. I don't care if your a doctor , i don't care if your fighter, i don't give a ** if you a political advisor, or simply in the peace core, you can be anything i don't give a because thats not the point. The point I was making is that you can not throw cash at homeless person and say hey work things out. The people in darfur are more **ed than a homeless person, so no matter how money collected its not going to do anything. I will no reply any more because its worthless repeating myself who won't even take what i say seriously.

01-05-2007, 08:41 AM	#37 (permalink)
Stabkiller0 OnRPG Elite Member! Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,757 Reputation: 26	Anyone seen the movie Hotel Rwanda? god its horrible and depressing I was crying at the end.

01-05-2007, 10:26 AM	#38 (permalink)
Slade Eriond's Egotist Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,733 Reputation: 17	Thank you ncyphe. I didn't think on it that way. But technically i am 'educating' the forum goers here with an incredible problem. But i dont get where they gleaned the info of me talking about america specifically, and not the rest of the world too. And Arucard, you got owned. BIGTIME. Im glad to see someone like FabianN here. Its a shame i dont practice what i preach, but at least i help a tad .

01-07-2007, 02:36 AM	#40 (permalink)
The Holy Cross Samus' Girdle Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 38 Reputation: 10	Oh and there definately wasn't any genocide going on in Iraq. Anyone here heard of a group in northern Iraq called the Kurds? Saddam Hussein killed thousands of Kurds because they are a Christian people. America has definately tried to stop genocide before. The only reason why people are making such a big deal out of Darfur not being invaded is because Bush hasn't done it. People will do anything they can to fight against Bush.