Eriond

What? No. Just no. What's wrong with GIMP? I fully support the open-source movement and my choice in tools further backs it up. What's wrong with Blender?

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TwitcH

So you complain about people stealing money from company's by using pirated software, yet you would deny a man a well paid job because he only uses free software?

You know what, it's people like you that are the reason I cant get a job, they want to see professional certificates telling them I can use microsoft word to type a damn sentence, they don't care if I can type up pages full of documents in Open Office, because they've never heard of the thing, or some company does not sponsor them to use it.

They don't care that I can program and create websites with these freeware products, I still wont get the job because I don't use what the rest of the world is paying to use.

They can all shove there certificates and payed for software up there ass's, they'll never be as skilled as the people that choose to use anything they want to, not what some company wants to pay them to use.

I don't even know why I'm bothering ranting about this, nothing will change because of it, I can tell this corporate world to kiss my ass all day long, but I'm still gonna be the one without a job because they cant be bothered to find out if someone is skilled enough through means other than a few certifications.

Gobla

They don't do this because they doubt your scripting capabilities. It's merely because they need an objective method of telling wether someone is good for the job or not. Opinions do not count. You need an objective way of telling.

Feelings, your guts and impressions mean nothing. If people started hiring people because they felt like it, because their gut told them so, because they got a good impression you're entering a world of trouble. Foreigner doesn't get a job because the manager didn't feel like it: racism. Noob101 does get a job because he made a good impression: manager in trouble.

Judging people is not an easy thing. There are millions of problems around it.

Certificates pose an accepted objective way of judging people. If you stand in court and have to explain why you didn't hire a foreign programmer and answer: my gut told me he was no good. You're screwed. If you tell them: He didn't have a certificate. You're all good. If you have to explain to your boss why you hired noob101 and answer: he seemed good to me. You're in trouble. If you answer: his certificates were all good. You're all good.

It's simply how the world works. All people are treated equally so you need an objective manner to diffirentiate them. Certificates simply are accepted everywhere and are easy.

AtomSlap

Actually, most software development companies, programming related companies, etc don't really pay that much attention to "certificates". It's mostly down to years of experience, and your portfolio.

Dennis56

It down to what college you went to previous jobs what languages you know and how long you know them

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Yalabor

The Massively Multiplayer part of MMORPG DOES NOT mean that their player base is already big. It means that a large group of players can play in a pesistent world with each other. Lets take CSS and say.. WoW for an example. CSS has rounds, and more impotantly Player-Created Servers! Now, they have a limit of so many players and thats not a massive limit, Also, the game isnt persistent. Now, for WoW on the other hand. Has Capability of thousands of players playing together! What about Hero Online when it was before realease, they advertised it as a MMORPG becuase it could hold a big player base that could play at the same time with each other! EVEN IF ONLY 15 PEOPLE PLAYED THAT GAME, IT WOULD STILL BE A MMORPG!

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Dennis56

Your wrong please don't post in this thread were trying to have a mature discussion with people

Massive means that hundreds of thousand people REGISTERED

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Eriond

Uh, well, CSS isn't an RPG, and uh... it's not a persistent gameworld, and thousands of people can't play with each other simulataneously, so no, it's not an MMORPG. While you are right about the playerbase being small and not mattering, your example is like uh... out to lunch , and doesn't make sense in the context of this thread.

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Yalabor

Hmm, i should of said Audition or something. Sorry :P. I just wanted to make it a clear example of what is and what is not. Oh and how it doesnt really make sense, im sorta replying to the first post.

sorry dennis, Massive does not mean that, it means clearly what i said.

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TwitcH

There.

I dont think CounterStrike is an MMO, MMO's usually consist of the one persistant world that everybody joins, so basicly an MMO has one server or a multitude of interconnected servers. CounterStrike only has the servers the players host and everyone that plays the game cant join that one server.

I think that's right anyway..