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Sandman53

In truth a lot of it comes out of responsibility. Look how many Teen/DUI related incidents there are, and what you think would happen if we made it legal for minors to drink alcohol? Not to mention alcohol is a vile drink to begin with and I don't think anything that kills you has the right to be legal anyways.

As for freedom, we have a lot. After 21 there is almost nothing we can't do. Sure we can't go faster than 100mph, we can't murder people, but there is sure a lot we can do. Most countries only dream of having the freedom we have. We have the right to elect our government officials no matter who they are. Hell I can vote Micky Mouse for president if I want to! I can talk as much shit about any official I want to, in public, and there is nothing he can do but sit there and take it.

Our rights are secured in paper and they can never be takin away. Most countries, if they so wish, can easily restrict the rights of all people and they can do nothing about it.
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Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Amendment III

No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

Amendment VII

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
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You look at freedom on such a low level that I don't think you actually know what your talking about...

"LOLOLOL YOU CANT DRINK YOU HAVE NO FREEDOM!"

As for state law... federal law can easily override it, and it's when the majority wants it that a law goes into effect. So if they DID make sex toys illegal to sell in texas, it's only because the Texans wanted it that way. They had the freedom to inact a law like that.

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As for everyone else. If you are going to argue with the person... DO NOT FLAME! *points to alimobeer*. If he pisses you off to the point where you can't hold it in, then go punch a hole in a wall and don't come back to this thread. There is no need to go off calling this guy all the names in the book simply because of his opinions. Try to have some dignity man...

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Marineking

I agree that the U.S. is not as free at it used to be or as it should be, but I'd rather live here then anywhere else.

I'm hoping that with the Bush family finally out of office in 2008 things will start to get better (Unless of course Hillary gets ellected, then I am certainly moving to Japan). But there is little we can do beyond vote for people whom we really don't know. Hillary changes her political ideals (And even her bloody accent, once) like they're clothes. Obama is more or less like every other president we've had since, well, forever (Christian, conservative, anti-everythingthatisn'tinthebible).

But yet, I doubt we will be in true trouble for a while yet, hopefully. Although, at the current path we are taking, we won't be "the most powerful nation on earth," for long.

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FabianN

I got to say the whole lot of you(cept for like, 1 or 2) are acting very immature.


First,
the Americas=North and South America
American(s)=Citizens of the United States of America, or a native resident of the America's(ie: an American Indian)
Don't like it? Tough. Thats how the English language is.
Look it up in any dictionary.
Here are two online ones:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/
http://dictionary.reference.com/

Now, it's quite obvious that he's not talking about native Americans. One can deduce that through common sense(something we have to use, not ignore).

And Afro-American, you broke the rules. He didn't. Deal with it.


I love my country(U.S.) What I hate is the government and the arrogant society that surrounds me.
That, and the whole "WE'RE BETTER THAN YOU" attitude. First, we are not at all better than any other country at ANYTHING. Second, what the **** does that matter? Who gives a flying **** if the country you live in is number one. What should matter is if you can ask yourself if there is something you can complain about in your country. If so, then you should strive to change that.


A few facts, though.
We come in 18th place for life expectancy, 5th in employment.
Our College education is on par with most countries high school education. We have one of the highest poverty rates of first world countries. Third world countries like Brazil exceeds us in clean energy(non fossils fuel). Most of the new major scientific break through are coming from Europe. We have one of the worst health care systems.
I even remember some statistics coming out about freedoms, and America didn't even make it into the top 15


But hey, one thing we do better than anyone else is our war toys. We have enough fire-power to completely destroy this planet at least 20 times over and make it uninhabitable for a couple million years.

But I don't really see that as something to brag about.





It would be anything but American to ignore these facts. As citizens of the United States of America we need to realize our flaws, and try to fix them. If we ignore what is wrong with our country, they will never be fixed.

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lothia

Well FabianN you do bring up a lot of good points, but I think the education system is the most true one. And it is one reason I am moving out into EU and will raise my children over there. I have been to both EU and Asian (Japan), and my sister has been to China. We both have agreed our high school/college (we are high school students in community colleges, we both will have AA's by the time we are 18 which is not something about 98% of the population can say.) is nothing compared to EU or Asia's. China is probably the most difficult of all, if you don't believe me, ask some one in China about their school life, chances are they will tell you its about 12-16 hours a day for 6 days a week. Then when big tests come to get into colleges its 7 days a week and up to about 18 hours a day. They do not have jobs before 18 because they have no time for it. They have school rankings and city rankings in China which is something US should do. I have personally met with the the number 1 student in one of Chinas 10+ millions cities. They are smart, and in Japan their education is beyond ours with classes, physical fitness and more. When I was in Europe, my beautiful and wonderful girl was taken 13 classes at one time. We take 7 max, and she was taking difficult classes, 2 language classes, physics, biology, calc, and many others.

I will admit that the US sucks, but our freedoms differ greatly, but are slowly being taken away. One of the bigger differences is we do not give homosexuals many rights, and many countries in the EU have, Italy which is the most highly populated Catholic country in the world has given homosexuals the right to marry and adopt.

Americans are proud of their country, but other people are proud of their history.

As to technology, America is only the leader in some technology and medical fields. But those fields are moving over into the EU, especially the biotechnology and soon the nano technology. They already are doing well in the micro technology and should be moving on in the next 8 years.

I will admit though, that I do consider Americans to mainly be from the US, since we call people from Canada, Candians. But when some one says, in America, that means those who live in all of America. If they say Americas it means both S and N America.
Regardless one thing some people may not notice, but try being an American going to EU, and explaining your language system. I compare American to English when I discuss it, why some may ask. It is simple, because England is the main founder of Anglo English and thus we just changed it from how we live, so we really speak American when comparing it to how people from England talk .

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Afro-American

Ya i fell into his trap and broke the rules o well. One more warning and its no more afro.

Astro

How could I possibly say it better?

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Cereal&Milk

Uh...Huh. Will you people stop referring to others as children when they make a post that is the least bit immature? It makes it seem like everyone here are ignorant tightwads, without much sense to their names. I've seen tons of children that have some kind of intelligence to them.

Also, Canada is the shit. They and Japan have the best appearance as of late.





I think I may move to Canada. The US is starting to annoy me for some reason.

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ap0c

Yawn. I love how you all pounce on this guy for his lack of understanding of geography. How most of you come out with this "He said America so he means everyone living in the continent of North America when really he means the USA so he is n00b" rubbish.

1. Ever heard of South America , they have equal right to be called Americans.

2. Its obvious by his critque that he ment the USA anyway.

Oh and Lothia ever heard of contridiction here i'll highlight yours for you


Well FabianN you do bring up a lot of good points, but I think the education system is the most true one. And it is one reason I am moving out into EU and will raise my children over there. I have been to both EU and Asian (Japan), and my sister has been to China. We both have agreed our high school/college (we are high school students in community colleges, we both will have AA's by the time we are 18 which is not something about 98% of the population can say.) is nothing compared to EU or Asia's. China is probably the most difficult of all, if you don't believe me, ask some one in China about their school life, chances are they will tell you its about 12-16 hours a day for 6 days a week. Then when big tests come to get into colleges its 7 days a week and up to about 18 hours a day. They do not have jobs before 18 because they have no time for it. They have school rankings and city rankings in China which is something US should do. I have personally met with the the number 1 student in one of Chinas 10+ millions cities. They are smart, and in Japan their education is beyond ours with classes, physical fitness and more. When I was in Europe, my beautiful and wonderful girl was taken 13 classes at one time. We take 7 max, and she was taking difficult classes, 2 language classes, physics, biology, calc, and many others.

I will admit that the US sucks, but our freedoms differ greatly, but are slowly being taken away. One of the bigger differences is we do not give homosexuals many rights, and many countries in the EU have, Italy which is the most highly populated Catholic country in the world has given homosexuals the right to marry and adopt

For others sake the red contridics the green. By this i mean ask your self how free you are having to be shakled in school for 12-16 hours for 6 days a week.
For me it doesnt matter where you go to school if you want to pass,you have the resources to pass and the intellectual capacity to pass you will pass regardless of where in the world you go to school,college or university. Its the same with life, most of the time if theres a will theres a way. If your mission is to kill a man there are no chains stopping you from accepting the mission there is no other factors directly holding you back if you really want to do it. Sure there are punishments and you might not get away with it but nothing stops you from accepting your mission and putting it into practise. Simpley you have the freedom to kill a man but its someone elses freedom thats going to ultimatly stop you or punish you.

This 13 classes at once bollocks is just plain that, chances are the majority of people can take 13 classes and with effort pass all with ease, but that shouldnt be what education is about. It shouldnt be about quantity it should be about quality. Chances are that your "girl" is really only going to excel and find natural talent in a couple of those disiplines she is taking. If you ask me once you know what you enjoy and have natural talent in education should be about nurturing this natural talent not confusing it with other malarky that is taken just to show off with.

Life should be lived to the full one should aim to be powerful,ruthless and strong. One should not let the goverment make them into a philistine herd animal through there subjugation via education. it is all a means of making us into weak slaves. What would be good for your kids would be a place where they can fully experience life, learn of what they want and learn most importantly who they are, this brings real character, power and wealth not busting your balls all your life over something you really couldnt give two sh!ts over. You've gotta learn who you are and what you want before you truly understand who others are and what others want.

p.s damn this boy's goooood.

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CocaColaAddict

Well, there are other places that don't get to read anything at ALL.
We can write whatever we want, Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451
Sing whatever we want, Dixie Chicks
Make a movie on anything we want, dunno

I'm just going to read the posts and not argue.

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Kriff

I used to think the U.S. was perfect, until I realized schools seem to sugar coat everything. Anyways, you're free to say what you want until it upsets a corporate sponsor.