EightySeven

So I would just like to ask a question. Who here thinks all game titles (now i say title as the game in its entirety) containing copy written licenses/names should be immediately removed from burning our eyes. Unless you have the license holder's permission to do so and have proof.

I'm talking to all of the Pokemon, Naruto, and other such things. I can admit that I've been part of a Dragon Ball online title for some time now... BUT we have permission from FUNimation Products ltd. to work on it for educational purposes screenshots can't be shown, and it can't be published at anytime unless further discussions with the license holder are made. To get this kind of permission you go to the site and click the "contact us" button always found on a site. If you are unsure of who the license holder is pick on a copy of said title and look at the back it will say somewhere on the package "Licensed by _____________"

Am I alone is feeling these posts are slightly wrong?

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Eriond

Well, they're not WRONG, they're just about games that in all likelihood won't get made. That doesn't mean they should be deleted. Hell, they should be encouraged, because if we can steer people off copyrighted material and onto their own creative thinking, we can get some fresh ideas and some good concepts flowing through the forum.

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landavia

wait.. a sec.. a minutes i think
that a rude way to say that.. but i respect your opinion. about the license..
it true that some of that game don't have license..
the name they use are for to take the fame of the name.. for example naruto.
but don't see why they use the name without any permision.. but see it as this is another way.. by this game show up.. the author of naruto are more famous.. the other reason already write above and the game are a tools of commercial.
fyi.. i'm building like u complain.
anyway.. when those game are famous.. the author will buy the game from author.

nope.. i surprised know you are the one create DB online..

well you should info to them (the maker of naruto RPG) or other. by type here not mean they will read this. U better tell them and warm em..

anyway... the problem of this era was.. the idea of game is more minimal.

Dennis56

You are wrong what happens when those games get famous is they get sued by the guy who created naruto for instance.

The creator of naruto put a lot of time and effort to create all the characters, name and all of the criteria and he does not like it nor any other person for people to just use his ideas and hard work it doesn't matter for a profit or non-profit even open source.

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landavia

well that's another scenario..
hope they saw that's naruto game and then try to talk nice by buy from them.. anyway.. naruto is just an example.. sry if someone mad because i type the name.


wait u said the creator of naruto manga or the creator of naruto game (web).
oh well... i will angry if my idea are collected by bunch people i don't know..
but if they share profit for me.. i will never gonna sued those people..

well in the end.. it's all about the money.

this a positive mind.. why don't u have positive..

Dennis56

The creator will not buy the game from them if its famous he will sue them and make the game shut down.
I meant the creator of the naruto series.

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Mustang

It would be completely illegal in all cases to even work on a naruto or other copyrighted name, type of game Without any actual license. A game that is developed using the name of a famous, or well enough known, hell even a none known name without proper permissions, and agreements to either a sponsorship with a license, or a license in general to even begin working on such a title. Now a concept is a different thing, design is different to, a concept of an anime, can be copied, but a design of a trademarked object can not be copied exactly.

But licensing between two parties occurs on a VERY high amount of $$$

ill go ahead and say like most others, if you plan to make public a fan based mmo or game using a animes title, you’d better be prepared to confront the studio, or company that has the legal license to authorize the redistribution or copy of there product.

It can vary, depending on the popularity of a content, or media, can designate the cost that can be argued with licensing. Its the same with ad space, a site that gets 1 hit a day cant sell thousands of dollars worth of ad space, now a site that gets maybe 60,000 hits a day, can definitely do such a thing, licensing of a product can occur on many different levels.

Lets take for example, sponsoring, for a product. Lets use BOXX pc's as an example, basically sponsorship can occur with a legal license to use the boxx product usually as a tradeoff for advertisements, and strong use of the boxx pc for an educational purpose. This is the same thing that goes for almost all products, a license is issued stating you have a legally owned copy, or version of a product through a trade off/ sponsorship, etc etc.

Licensing buying:: can occur on different levels as well, most famous names like naruto, there will have to be argues between several different parties before an actual legalized license to copy, and redistribute the product to a secondary customer can be applied to another group. Licensing DOESNT come cheap, because different cost's of each level that a company can issue a license can be applied, a license can have any level of permission applied, even an only be able to develop the game, but the license would state that the game must be redistributed and published only by the media company that owned the name.

Licensing can be applied to its different permissions in many ways, just because you have a license to make something doesn’t mean you own it. It can have ANY amount of policies, and rules that must be followed or the license can be retracted, whatever they require you as the aim group to sign upon, must be followed.

So cost's and different ways as to get a license can be difficult if you don’t get what you really want.

with what dennise said - This will most times happend because the game may have not been an authroized reproduction of the name and design. Sometimes, the bigger party, in this case the studio that redistributed and ownes the name to naruto will buy the development and concept from the second party if it meets with a proffesional standard, but this is id say a 1 in a million chance of happening, because most of what we as fans can make can be created in a complete 300x's better design from the official creators.

But buying a design and idea basically from a group of fans only takes place because the owner of naruto might see a possibility in something really great, so in this case it would be a trade off between the two parties for a license to be issued to develop and continue with what there doing, or be sued. Or the higher group might buy the development and continue with the game themselves, or the second group will have to sufice to the court room.

In almost all cases, you will definetly face either 2 choices or none, these are, shut down immediatly or be sued, or a two choice ( shut down or be sued/ VS buy our license to develop this

If you ever get into structure with all of this type of stuff, it all boils down to ONE thing.

MONEY, if the the creators, or licensed owners can find a way to milk the secondary party for all their worth, they will most likley do it. That is if it meets and appeals to them.

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landavia

well i'm agree with you

like on the blade 3 quote
"because the world isn't nice"

fyi.. i just taken when a little girl ask blade why he use that serum.

EightySeven

The creators of the IPs don't want others using them because in most likelihood they will ruin their name by making a piece of crap.

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Mustang

This isnt really the case at all depending on the licensed media owner. For instance I will use naruto again. A fan could make a mini game, mini show, or other media based off naruto, thats fine, but not at a public level, most of these are BEST suited for freinds, and family level, unless you really want to face the court room. BIG name companies, that own names like naruto, dont EVEN care a tiny bit about if a fan based thing makes naruto look like crap because its insignifigant. Its inferioer to the actual show because the licensed owners, as well as thousands of other know that naruto is owned and developed by the media owner and not the fans, so making something look bad isnt really why they would rather not have people make fan based stuff.

Its the illegal use of names, characters, and designs that are native to the programs being used. Media companies would rather not even bother worrying about if a fan based media/entertainment program makes it look like crap, because in most cases it will not even level to the rank that an original program can do, without breaking internatonial law of course.

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