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ap0c

With all your understanding why does your review state that Nietzsche is about the external social improvment of man...he is and if not more about the internal self-actualising improvment of man.

Your review is giving the message across of someone who interpt's Nietzsche as "the man who inspired the Nazi's". To me Jesus of Nazareth 'inspired' the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition in exactly the same sense.

However, Nietzsche, gives us no reason to interpret him as talking of military might or raw strength as power any more than interpreting power as something more positive, like self control or excellence in courage. When Nietzsche says 'war', he might mean a domination of all that is lazy and weak in ourselves; war against all that would make us less than we could be.

Again, if by easier to understand you mean easier to accept i cannot and would not and am damn certain the majority of women in the world would not accept this about Nietzche. Philosophy is about questions. If the easier something is in a philosophical terms means the less questions it poses to us to explore then Nietzsche is certainly not easy.

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Astro

Excelent thread Alexander. I have already read those three books and I would also recommend them to everyone who wishes to cultivate their culture.

Those are good points Apoc, but lets not turn this thread into an argument. Even if it is a serious and well thought one.

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AlexanderVB

I'm honestly, not going to continue this any further, I just want to state, that you're putting words into my mouth, and I rushed the Nietzsche section a bit, which I admit was wrong, but it's rather hard to sum up an immense book that quickly, and in no way do I attempt to challenge your knowlege of the subject (if it was Marcus Aurelius however, then I would). So for that, I apologize. I said nothing about Nazi's for all of that was twisting of words that Hitler put on Nietzsche's writings to put emphasis on his idea behind the Aryan race.


I honestly, think your just seeking argument here, I am here to post books that people need to read not cause an argument. To be quite honest if you want to continue this discussion, lets do it through PMs, therefore not to wreck the initial idea of the thread.

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ap0c

I think to get people to read these books you've got to be more than happy to talk about them and disscuss them in the public eye as much as possible. If the initial idea of the thread was self-glorification then yes i am stealing some of your lime light by posting my idea's of these books. But if the initial idea of the thread was to promote these books then how in away way am i harming this?
I think that philosophical debate about these books would do much better than a "you must read this". After all the purpose of these books is to question them and explore them as much as possible.That is why people love these books because they make them think. A philosopher in my eyes loves to question everything and loves to attain knowledge of anything.

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AlexanderVB

To be quite honest, thats a reasonably good point, and no I honestly don't care about the, "self-glorification" or any glorification, for that means less to me then I may lead you to believe. Nonetheless, I haven't read enough of Nietzsche's works besides Beyond Good and Evil to spark a reasonably good philosophy discussion about him. Perhaps in the due future I may.

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