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Old 08-04-2007, 07:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default id Reveals Rage (PS3, 360, PC, Mac): 60 FPS, 2 DVDs / 1 Blu-ray

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The new property id Software executives have repeatedly hinted towards is named Rage, co-founder and programmer John Carmack revealed at today's QuakeCon festivities.
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While id maintained its typical stance that the title will ship "when it's done," the company did reveal that the PlayStation 3 edition of Rage will arrive on one Blu-ray disc, whereas the other three versions--PC, Mac, Xbox 360--will come on two DVDs with a potential Blu-ray distribution for compatible systems. Through the game's use of the recently unveiled id Tech 5, which CEO Todd Hollenshead claims will run equally well on any hardware platform, all four versions of Rage are targeted to run at 60 frames per second.
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5:10: Talking about game in development prior to Rage, and about 30fps versus 60fps. id has made decision to target 60fps with its engine and games. Thus, licensees can shoot for 30fps if they like, and do more visual stuff, or stick with the 60fps goal. "At 30fps with modern graphics hardware, you feel you can do almost anything." "But at 60 hertz...you're left with a lot less decision freedoms, and it's kind of nice." Easier to just say "No you can't do that with 60 hertz."
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/48289


id on Steam, Quake Arena on XBLA: http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/48288


[/QUOTE]The source data is more than that even. We go through tons of data compression, so the game is segmented in that regard. I wouldn't expect an HD DVD release for Rage though. What's interesting though is that it all fits fine with a 256m video card. On PS3, video requirements doesn't even completely use the 256 video memory; we wish we could use more in other places. Bottom line, it can be compressed from source.[/QUOTE]

So, pretty much the PS3 doesn't need all its ram to make games that look equally as good or even better then whats on the 360.

Oh and, they're making a new Quake Called Quake Zero. It will Quake 3 that plays right in your web browser. It's a free game supported by an ad system.

P.S. The game "rage" is going to be rated Teen. It will have the monsters Doom and Quake are known for but, it won't be as violent with guts and blood all over the place.

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Can you turn the fanboyism down just abit srsly. Just don't hate on other consoles and formats. If you prefer blu-ray you choose blu-ray if not then don't simple as that you don't have to bash on 360.
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Can you turn the fanboyism down just abit srsly. Just don't hate on other consoles and formats. If you prefer blu-ray you choose blu-ray if not then don't simple as that you don't have to bash on 360.
He wins. You win a cookie. Now go buy one .

Quake Zero sounds neat. I'd love to try that out.

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See, see? You got 2 standard DVDs for 360, PC, and Mac version.

For your PS3, you only need 1 Blu-ray disc.
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Yea, to bad consoles are shit, PC is the best.
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Can you turn the fanboyism down just abit srsly. Just don't hate on other consoles and formats. If you prefer blu-ray you choose blu-ray if not then don't simple as that you don't have to bash on 360.
What the ****? You bash the PS3 and Sony any chance you get, don't come at me with that bullshit.


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Yea, to bad consoles are shit, PC is the best.
Let me know when the PC gets games as high quality and as highly regarded as console games. Seriously dude, where is the PC's Zelda or ico? PC gaming is a market FLOODED with bad MMO's and FPS's.

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Let me know when the PC gets games as high quality and as highly regarded as console games.
Sure thing. Farcry, Half Life, Half Life 2, Counter-Strike, Gears of War (Comming), Duke Nukem, Doom, Wolfenstein, World in Conflict, Crysis (Comming), Warcraft, Starcraft, Elder Scrolls, Company of Heroes, and Warhammer are all the games that come to mind, and htere IS more.

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Sure thing. Farcry, Half Life, Half Life 2, Counter-Strike, Gears of War (Comming), Duke Nukem, Doom, Wolfenstein, World in Conflict, Crysis (Comming), Warcraft, Starcraft, Elder Scrolls, Company of Heroes, and Warhammer are all the games that come to mind, and htere IS more.

Stop living with a blindfold, I hate fanboys.


Oh God, Gears of War, World in conflict and COMPANY OF HEROES? Are you stupid on purpose or is this a joke post? I'm talking games that will be remembered and have been for 10+ years. I'll give you Warcraft, starcraft, Half-life and Doom the rest are half assed choices.

Theres no chance in a cold hell that Far-cry or Crysis will be a game everyone remembers 10 years from now. Those games aren't classics, they're tech demos for an engine nobody will want to use.


A smart PC gamer would list things like System Shock, Dues Ex, Baldur's Gate, Fallout, planescape:Torment and Myst.


Seriously dude, Wheres your:

Zelda
Mario
Sonic
Metroid
Final Fantasy
Castlevania
Okami
Street Fighter
Tetris
Pong
Pac-man
Phantasy Star
Virtual Fighter(First ever 3D fighter is serious shit)
Psychonauts
Beyond Good and Evil
Shenmue 1&2

Plus more, more then a PC will ever provide. So you go ahead and take your Gears of War port and your Crysis, shove it as far up your *** as it can go while I'll be playing some of the Greatest games in history that a PC will never see!

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What the ****? You bash the PS3 and Sony any chance you get, don't come at me with that bullshit.
Not really I actually like sony I even have a psp it's just that it's ****ing expensive.
Also wtf are you saying tetris, pong, pacman, Beyond Good And Evil, Psychonauts, and Phantasy Star are all on PC and or started on Pc. Shows how much you know.

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Oh God, Gears of War, World in conflict and COMPANY OF HEROES? Are you stupid on purpose or is this a joke post? I'm talking games that will be remembered and have been for 10+ years. I'll give you Warcraft, starcraft, Half-life and Doom the rest are half assed choices.

Theres no chance in a cold hell that Far-cry or Crysis will be a game everyone remembers 10 years from now. Those games aren't classics, they're tech demos for an engine nobody will want to use.


A smart PC gamer would list things like System Shock, Dues Ex, Baldur's Gate, Fallout, planescape:Torment and Myst.


Seriously dude, Wheres your:

Zelda
Mario
Sonic
Metroid
Final Fantasy
Castlevania
Okami
Street Fighter
Tetris
Pong
Pac-man
Phantasy Star
Virtual Fighter(First ever 3D fighter is serious shit)
Psychonauts
Beyond Good and Evil
Shenmue 1&2

Plus more, more then a PC will ever provide. So you go ahead and take your Gears of War port and your Crysis, shove it as far up your *** as it can go while I'll be playing some of the Greatest games in history that a PC will never see!
The games that you listed that are actully really legendary on the concol, like Pac-man, Tetris, Zelda, ect, were from a time when computers costed tens of thousands of dollars and were not used for gaming at all.
But times have changed, and in that respect, so has what big games.
Now, you may not like Halo. There is a large group that don't, but that doesn't change the fact that it's one of the biggest name FPS.
You are far behind in the times.
Quake, Counter-Strike, Duke Nukem, Wolfenstein, ElderScrolls, Need for Speed, HomeWorld, Unreal Tournament(pick any version), and many more.
Hell, CS 1.6, an 8 year old game is still in the top ten most played game on Xfire, and then you need to consider those that don't have xfire.

And you are correct on System Shock, Dues Ex, Baldur's Gate, Fallout, Planescape:Torment and Myst.

But there is a huge different of what you think are good games, and what are popular games.



And while you guys will be enjoying an 60fps max, I'll be sitting here with a minimum of 60fps at much higher quality and the ability to mod the games.(not to mention a mouse is so much more accurate than a joystick)


And the PC also has the largest game library. Hell, you could take every game library from every single system ever made(portable or not), put it all together and it would still be nothing compared to the PC game library.



Game consoles were big ten years ago, but they are losing popularity for serious gamers.
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