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Old 08-05-2007, 02:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So, NY State just recently passed a law stating that our school can drug test anyone, at any time, with a reasonable amount of suspician. As long as a teacher can justify drug testing a student, he or she will recieve 5 days suspension, as well as a hearing with a school official. The drug test will be a saliva test, which can be thrown off with even advil or other common OTC pills, which some people need in order to operate daily. The test can test up to 4 weeks prior to the testing, so, the test proves NOTHING. I know plenty of people that smoke marijuana outside of school, and never smoke before or during school. Refusal to take the drug test is an AUTOMATIC confession, and a 5 day suspension.


I am seriously thinking of transferring schools. I bet I am on the top of that list to be tested. I never smoke or drink or do any illegal drugs while I am in school. I never abuse any substance before school either. This is a HUGE invasion of privacy, and I think the whole idea is rediculous. I think what I do at home has NOTHING to do with what I do at school, and its bullshit they are suspending me for it.
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Old 08-05-2007, 03:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Taking illegal drugs is an offence no matter where you do it.

Just because you're being tested for it in school, doesn't mean it's because you're doing it in school.

I don't have anything against drug takers, however, it's against the law, you get punished for breaking the law... It's only a matter of time really.


Anyway, good luck not getting caught...
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Old 08-05-2007, 03:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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They are trying to keep drugs out of children. I commend the school system for taking action, all you need is to have a parent note or doctors slip saying you need to take this medicine for a pre-existing medication.*

Its not really a violation of privacy, rather a stricter method of keeping drugs out of schools and out of children. If it upsets you so much, then I would transfer schools.

* I was refferring to the common OTC/ Advil/ whatever sets it off.
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They are trying to catch drug users that use drugs IN SCHOOL. I haven't been high in school for years. What I do at home is MY business, and the school has NO right to invade that privacy. If the police want to come to my house with a warrent, and seach it, so be it. I will take full responsibility for everything I have, everything I have done wrong. But, when I am fine in school, and they test me for something I did over the weekend, I feel like they have stepped over a line. Not even stepped. Tried to stop on a dime going 90, and slid over the line and off a cliff.
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I agree with Oisterboy.

Although they're testing for illegal drugs, it's still an invasion of privacy.
I mean yeah, if they found something like PCP or Heroin, fire away but for things like Marijuana which can be taken for medicinal purposes then it's just stupid.

If I was you, I'd be feeling pretty claustrophobic right now =/
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And how exactly would they be able to tell the difference between somebody who's taken drugs over the weekend and somebody who taken the drugs in school?

Everyone could just use the excuse that they did it out of school...
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If I was you, I'd be feeling pretty claustrophobic right now =/
I am...its extreemly scary for me to be honest. You know...it just feels hopeless. Like, now that this happened, I feel like they can do anything. One thing I always liked about school, was that it didn't follow me home. You know, I was a student at school, did what I was supposed to for the most part,and did my own thing at home. Now, the two are one in the same...
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Even though possession of Marijuana in most states is illegal, medicinal purposes. I think California and Oregon legalized it for cancer patients.


Anyway, I don't see how its a breach of privacy, if you did drugs you really need to be busted. Seeing as though its illegal, would it matter if you got tested at school, at home, at the mall? Illegal is illegal, no matter how they find out.
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Even though possession of Marijuana in most states is illegal, medicinal purposes. I think California and Oregon legalized it for cancer patients.


Anyway, I don't see how its a breach of privacy, if you did drugs you really need to be busted. Seeing as though its illegal, would it matter if you got tested at school, at home, at the mall? Illegal is illegal, no matter how they find out.
It's also legalised for medicinal purposes in the UK. (Where I live).
Usually for multiple sclerosis.
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Drug testing is not a vaild form of conviction in NY state. In NY, you must be caught with paraphinalia, resin, substance, or something inorder to be taken away. If you stumbed up to a cop high off your ***, they can't do anything unless you have material on you. Cops can't say "go take a drug test" and when they get results, punish you for things you've already done. Not here in NY. Employees can be fired from work for using drugs, but thats effecting a company, who is worried about money.
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