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Fael · 04-30-2008, 03:21 AM

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Well summoners level up fast, period. This is an undisputed fact in any server, be it Seria, Siroco, Cassilas or whatever.

Possibly one of the hardest classes to start out solo. No way of getting around that. 1-30 is pure hell and you'll have no control over your summons whatsoever. Summoners are actually fairly terrible until 35-40 depending on what type. Comparing this to say, a Berserker, who is godly at soloing right off the bat and only gets better later on makes it obvious they aren't hands down, the best class PvE.

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What I'm thinking is doing maps outside the level range of your character. Summoners have the edge here, which is why my Moon Empress keeps getting private messages to plvl others of around the same level as me.

The game does not allow you to go to maps you'll get EXP penalties from. Unless you mean the level ranges on the map select screen, in which case everyone in the game does this.

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You don't really need to get legacy weapons to play summoners, other characters maybe but it's not a Must for summoners. I did say low level weaponry is fine for support classes didn't I? Summoners are support classes by nature, not attacking themselves but using summons to support them.

Its not a must for anyone, but like I said, why have yourself use a worse weapon willingly when levelling. If you want to exercise cost effective instead of better productivity then thats your choice, it has nothing to do with the class really and not many people make this sacrifice.

Well that isn't quite the right definition of support class, being that it hinders your party members generally.

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plvling

oh you're one of those

But yeah if you have another block of text you can post it but that was just kind of ridiculous and tedious to read. I'll agree with you that summoner is good at soloing, but definately not the best, and also definately not the highest consistant damage output. Good in parties? Definately not. Good in PVP? Absolutely not (you can use the official DNF Toonies Tournament as reference for this, being as a very high ranked summoner loses every match it fights in). Cheap? Yes if you want to grub money that badly I guess.

Oni · 04-30-2008, 03:23 AM

Summoners are good at getting triple S's. But int is important to Summoners too so they put on higher level weapons for more int. Look at that Summoner with a +17 Chaos Staff in Siroco. he throws the freaking "Catch that dude" skill and they die in one or two shot.

And for Seria, the teen server, Younger kids go to PC room to play because they have such crappy computers. And if those younger kids aren't at PC room. They probably using a good computer at home which is not theirs but someone else from the family.

dby2k · 04-30-2008, 03:56 AM

I just sell plvling services usually if i just wanna finish up my stamina fast. Grab a few noobs, collect money, go in map, go out map and done. I'm playing on my Moon Empress now mainly to farm the Koumiss healing item and more stone fragments at Ice Palace King Road. Fantastic healing item, no minimum level limit, heals 615 hp over a short period of time. My main concern now is my sword Berserker. I've got ingame buddies who give me some equipments and stuff (like my gore brass set), but using the sword really makes it tough, although I can practically cut large amounts mobs twice as fast as large sword wielders. Well I went sword coz it's cheap, fast to use and can do quite a lot of fun juggling as compared to large sword.( based on a purely pve build )

I'm not like an expert on berserker or anything, just using it for some fun as a melee character. Just that his repair costs are way higher than my moon empress lolz. (>ㅇ_ㅇ)> 얼음킹 anyone ??

ShadePopping · 04-30-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dby2k

I just sell plvling services usually if i just wanna finish up my stamina fast. Grab a few noobs, collect money, go in map, go out map and done. I'm playing on my Moon Empress now mainly to farm the Koumiss healing item and more stone fragments at Ice Palace King Road. Fantastic healing item, no minimum level limit, heals 615 hp over a short period of time. My main concern now is my sword Berserker. I've got ingame buddies who give me some equipments and stuff (like my gore brass set), but using the sword really makes it tough, although I can practically cut large amounts mobs twice as fast as large sword wielders. Well I went sword coz it's cheap, fast to use and can do quite a lot of fun juggling as compared to large sword.( based on a purely pve build )

I'm not like an expert on berserker or anything, just using it for some fun as a melee character. Just that his repair costs are way higher than my moon empress lolz. (>ㅇ_ㅇ)> 얼음킹 anyone ??

wait.. wtf is summon monster reckless ._.", spirit summon or warrior summon?

dby2k · 04-30-2008, 02:06 PM

It's not a summon lolz. It's an AoE buff skill that affects summons in the area and can be learnt when the summoner reaches level 45. Also known as the super version of Lesson start (whip).
Most magic type summoners don't really pump this, due to lack of SP but normal type summoners max it usually, as it gives Cassilas incredible stats, move speed and attack speed. It also stacks on top of ancient memory so your magic type summons deal a great damage boost with it.

dantz · 04-30-2008, 02:17 PM

everyone enjoys reading long lines of crap.....or do they?

dby2k · 04-30-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dantz

everyone enjoys reading long lines of crap.....or do they?

Just you. Lolz

ShadePopping · 05-01-2008, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dby2k

It's not a summon lolz. It's an AoE buff skill that affects summons in the area and can be learnt when the summoner reaches level 45. Also known as the super version of Lesson start (whip).
Most magic type summoners don't really pump this, due to lack of SP but normal type summoners max it usually, as it gives Cassilas incredible stats, move speed and attack speed. It also stacks on top of ancient memory so your magic type summons deal a great damage boost with it.

cassilas = awakening?

dby2k · 05-01-2008, 02:00 AM

Yeah Summon Cassilas is the awakening skill of Moon Empresses.
He's supposed to be one of the guardians of DnF or something, there's a server named after him.
Lolz you're starting to make me think arad doesn't have a fully updated summoner class yet, though I've seen the update video... >.>

Fael · 06-10-2008, 04:31 AM

Lets revive it.

YouTube Video

YouTube Video

New Season 2 maps. Who needs screenshots!!!!!!

04-30-2008, 03:23 AM	#1112 (permalink)
Oni `Doll's Dishwasher Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,453 Reputation: 10	Summoners are good at getting triple S's. But int is important to Summoners too so they put on higher level weapons for more int. Look at that Summoner with a +17 Chaos Staff in Siroco. he throws the freaking "Catch that dude" skill and they die in one or two shot. And for Seria, the teen server, Younger kids go to PC room to play because they have such crappy computers. And if those younger kids aren't at PC room. They probably using a good computer at home which is not theirs but someone else from the family. __________________ LoL US - TrinityOni

04-30-2008, 03:56 AM	#1113 (permalink)
dby2k ChimaeraOne's Cookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 横浜市 Posts: 1,375 Reputation: 42	I just sell plvling services usually if i just wanna finish up my stamina fast. Grab a few noobs, collect money, go in map, go out map and done. I'm playing on my Moon Empress now mainly to farm the Koumiss healing item and more stone fragments at Ice Palace King Road. Fantastic healing item, no minimum level limit, heals 615 hp over a short period of time. My main concern now is my sword Berserker. I've got ingame buddies who give me some equipments and stuff (like my gore brass set), but using the sword really makes it tough, although I can practically cut large amounts mobs twice as fast as large sword wielders. Well I went sword coz it's cheap, fast to use and can do quite a lot of fun juggling as compared to large sword.( based on a purely pve build ) I'm not like an expert on berserker or anything, just using it for some fun as a melee character. Just that his repair costs are way higher than my moon empress lolz. (>ㅇ_ㅇ)> 얼음킹 anyone ?? __________________ DnF Test Server Last edited by dby2k; 04-30-2008 at 04:14 AM.

04-30-2008, 02:06 PM	#1115 (permalink)
dby2k ChimaeraOne's Cookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 横浜市 Posts: 1,375 Reputation: 42	It's not a summon lolz. It's an AoE buff skill that affects summons in the area and can be learnt when the summoner reaches level 45. Also known as the super version of Lesson start (whip). Most magic type summoners don't really pump this, due to lack of SP but normal type summoners max it usually, as it gives Cassilas incredible stats, move speed and attack speed. It also stacks on top of ancient memory so your magic type summons deal a great damage boost with it. __________________ DnF Test Server

04-30-2008, 02:17 PM	#1116 (permalink)
dantz Sonic’s Milkshake Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: South K- India Posts: 315 Reputation: 10	everyone enjoys reading long lines of crap.....or do they? __________________ The Moon Empress The Blaster Craking Jars Windmill Lv.20 Bind cubes Gaebolg Punch army? i'd rather- I AM IN HELL

05-01-2008, 02:00 AM	#1119 (permalink)
dby2k ChimaeraOne's Cookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 横浜市 Posts: 1,375 Reputation: 42	Yeah Summon Cassilas is the awakening skill of Moon Empresses. He's supposed to be one of the guardians of DnF or something, there's a server named after him. Lolz you're starting to make me think arad doesn't have a fully updated summoner class yet, though I've seen the update video... >.> __________________ DnF Test Server Last edited by dby2k; 05-01-2008 at 02:05 AM.

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