Kargor

Well, here's a bit of the story.

I just left Cabal, since they are forcing their Nation system on players at lvl 95+, and I was already running into problems with people on my buddylist even though I'm only 86. And I'm not interested in PvP, and certainly not in free-PK everywhere and around bosses with several hours respawn time. Some people might think this is great gameplay, but I don't.

Downloaded 2Moons, but the first thread I read on their forums is about PK... apparently, they have free PK everywhere. They don't even have a non-PK server, apparently. Case closed.

Anything else I should be looking at? Other games I have played:

• Last Chaos: pretty much died off due to boredom. Although I did last longer than everyone on my buddylist, including my "guardian".
• Flyff: played this rather long, but then they moved to V7, and that did it. I heard they fixed some of the major V7 problems, but the way they lied to the players isn't exactly nice either, and the game has lost a lot with V7.
  Anyway, right now I don't feel like going back to them.
• Scions of Fate: it was too bugged. Didn't really see anything.
• Trickster: not that bad, a bit boring maybe, but the quests and the digging pretty much sucked. Besides, I played this when I already knew about Cabal, and was waiting for it to become available.

So, plusses are:

• PvP entirely optional
• free2play
• some eyecandy
• decent balance
• decent quests
• maybe not too extreme grinding

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Wraithmire

this won't help, but free bump to you...cause I'm looking for a game pretty much like this too

Kargor

Taking a look at Sword of the New World right now.

Funny thing, previously I was mostly worried about cash shops being required; now the first thing I post on their forum is about the nation system to learn whether it is optional, or whether it turns into a Cabalish PK game later on...

Maybe I'm too old for modern games... I expect a MMO"RP"G to be cooperative.

Reminds me of another Cabal thread... I was approaching Master skill, and was asking about the Greater Heal spell. I actually got asked back why I want to heal players that are not in my party... it's not that I run around looking for players to heal, but if my char can do it, I buff and heal people when I pass them. Or when they ask with a bit more than just "buff me". That's just common courtesy, and I don't really see why a game shouldn't leave the permanent nation wars to the players that actually like it.

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girtrute

how were you lvl 86 and only master skills. when i was playing everyone was completer skills by the time they were lvl 65.i had completer at lvl 62 but its basicaly like any other 3d mmorpg. i expect mmorpgs to be however u want to be if u want to solo they shouldnt make it hard to solo and if you want to group they shouldnt make it hard for group to lvl together.they shouldnt force you to group and they shouldnt force you to solo. i believe pvp is best for mmorpg's jsut put good jail system and pk system in to keep pks from camping spots. you want a team game play dungeon and dragons i believe there no pvp at all in it and its jsut team.

WerewolfX

if you find a game like this inform me i'm willing to play.

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girtrute

the game yall are wanting is dungeon and dragons. that way u wont get pk'd and everyone groups. but im the kinda person that can get pkd 1000 times over in only 1 minute and not even care.and think its funny.