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Testeagle

You assume a lot and the rest is pure flame nice work.

I myself have never played FFXI and now I've read a bit I'd love to give it a go.

As for WoW it offers a lot of things to do if you choose to do them, yes characters can be easy to play but at the same time you can change your style of play (to make it more interesting/involved) e.g. Mages single target kills can differ greatly to AOE killing. You have leveling, different talent trees (61 points to spend at level 70) e.g. Ice/Fire/Arcane or combinations of 1 or more for mages (all classes 3 trees), professions/jobs/crafting items, mounts, pvp and pvp rewards, big raids (10, 20, 25 and 40) and loot, small 5 mans and loot, solo play and loot, reputation gaining and loot, you don't have to play in groups you can solo to get good items, it's really up to the player, Solo players won't see the same quality of items unless they craft and or pvp compared to pure raiders, but crafting and pvp can help casual or hardcore players. Now you can't say with all that this that the game lacks depth, whether you like it or not is up to you, but it does have a lot of stuff to do even after you hit max level (half the shit I'm to lazy to do lol)

I've been playing online games for years now my first being Lineage 1's beta from that point on I've play all kinds beta's p2p and f2p and WoW keeps bringing me back, maybe it's just the people.. nope it's not just that, the game is well built but like anything thing it gets old, WoW just happens to bring new things do now and then by giving big upgrades.

Just to finish up there are some good games out there I've tried and some I would probably put ahead of WoW but the people you play with can make a great difference to how much you like a game.

This thread had turned into a non factual flame a thon, try putting a little thought into your posts, show us something.

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Shiftfallout

Were you following the thread or just assumed i was comparing that to square. Squaresoft has nothing to do with my bit of information, so stop assuming it does.

If you were following the thread, you would see Marchi and Refraxians posts regarding profit between large number games like maple story as compared to WoW. Then you were paying attention you would have understood my post has nothing to do with square as it was not even part of that discussion, but rather a statement of a simple fact that due to WoWs profit margin, Bliz was able to expand and build a new HQ.

Please pay attention next time.

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Cingal

Just something I'd like to bring up.

A private server of FFXI has never been made.
There are thousands of private servers for WoW.

No idea why exactly, although I guess it could come down to two things.
1. WoW has cheap protection in terms of protection against this.
2. WoW is more popular therefore people who are more skilled in this are able to make private servers.

Although, most people do say that FFXI is impossible to make a private server for.

Not bad for a 5 year old game.

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GrandHustle

Lol, I agree!

And what makes it even funnier is that half of these people are all like "it all comes down to your preferences, and your opinions" in other threads, when people are trying to find a good game.

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leathel

actually it seemed to me like u based that on what refractions post said trying to make a point maybe i was wrong but then again how was my post any different from yours?

both off topic about the same thing and i didnt flame you in anyway so umm point out the bit where i wasnt paying attention?

Shiftfallout

My post did not quote nor point out anyone and begin with a rofl. Yours was clearly directed at me, that is how our posts are different. That and the fact that I merely stated some information that had no bias nor relevance to support either side other than providing information.

no worries

They said the same for SWG, and yet the fans have proved them wrong. I think what it comes down to, is that if there really is a demand for it and the players are skilled enough to attempt it, they will do it. Surprisingly a lot of these professionals who make games and software also like to go into mod/hack mode when they are away from work.

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leathel

eh i thought a private server was made for ffxi except people said it wouldnt work because of the amount of players needed to complete quests etc its like making a private server for guildwars i guess i dont think its impossible to get a server running i just think its impossible for the server to get anywhere

refraxion

Anything is possible, it's just if what people are doing are actually "worth it" to do.

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leathel

i dont think you understand what i meant it is impossible yes impossible for a game like final fantasy xi to work as a private server because it is such a party based game for example guildwars both games do not base a characters strength on equipment and both games require parties to exceed in actually getting anywhere in the game so yes it is impossible i really dont think you thought about my post.....not every game is like wow where if u get max level and some uber equips you can roam the worlds killing everything and anything without having to use any skill....kinda reminds me of a highrate ragnarok server

plus i dont understand the whole if its worth it ur either saying ffxi isnt worth the time cause its a bad mmo or ur agreeing with me which then wud mean u could have just quoted what i said.....

refraxion

I understand what you said, but I also mean anything is possible just if it's worth the time (that's what i meant by it's worth it or not). If you work so hard and get hardly anything back, it's overall not worth it when there aren't enough demand for something like a private FFXI server.

Also, in WoW you wont be able to kill "everything" but you're at the maximum level so you better damn well be able to kill a ton, depending on your spec or your character is an embarassment. And the "uber" equips is actually not that easy to obtain maybe welfare tailoring items, even pvp arena items are hard to get if you're in a good battlegroup.

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