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Thas

Too bad I havent played FFXI so its hard for me to answer everything.. But everything I've heard about FFXI just makes me feel sick, not my type mmo at all.. So.. WoW anyways..

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Synthaz

I was wondering if FFXI was very populated and if so what server is the most players residing on?

I've feasted my eyes on 11 for too long and I must play!

And I'm not sure if my opinion is valid,since I've never played both games either.But WoW is based off of one fantasy-type world,I think its medieval?But FFXI from a non-players perspective seems to combine many nationalities and eras into one.

Not to mention,I have a low-end system doing only with 256+ RAM and an ATI x200 series card.FFXI's requirements are very low.In fact,256 is the recommended maximum requirement.But WoW wants 512 MB RAM >.<

gobsied

Contentwise FFXI still offers more.
The shift to PC wasn't a bad one, very many players enjoyed the pc version
The interface is made quite well.
And the servers aren't underpopulated.

The major problem for new players coming in not that no one is looking for a party because there are still oppertunities.

The thing is most people have multiple level jobs they train simultaneously, when they are looking to see if a party can be made with any of the job levels they have they are on their main job level.
Eg. I want to train my Taru I have lvl 9, 18, 27, 36 and 60 jobs I want to train, while I'm looking for a party I would be on my lvl 75 job.
The best way to circumvent that is posting on the killingifrit forums, joining linkshells, questing and leveling multiple jobs. If your a new player and all you want is to mad rush one job to 75 you will run into difficulties, unless you level BRD, then it's kinda easy.

I still don't understand what concepts FFXI failed at.

I do know that WoW would succeed more than FFXI simply because it's an easier game. Also WC3 was at the height of it's popularity and many people liked playing custom ORPG type maps.
The LAN party feel that you get from WC3 and the type of casual play helped WC3 take off. After they established their pie of the market share they were able to invest more in advertising and upgrading.

A harder game where value is achieved through skill, technique and teamplay like FFXI and most other mmorpgs could never catch on like the popular LAN party faced paced low strategy WoW could.

WoW was also not without fault at launch, I remember the myriad of class balancing issues, and glitches that had to be overcome.

When I say this I know that WoW does take some strategy but when compared to the techniques required by FFXI it fails in comparisson.

Also at the time WoW was released it was the leader in MMORPGs, and the most innovate systems were put in place.
However FFXI was still much more time consuming (although now there is more casual gamer content) when WoW was released. WoW also offered an innovative pvp system that FFXI lacked.

While both are still very interesting games. I find FFXI to have more content and be much better for the core gamer, as the casual gaming experience in FFXI really only takes off after cap which can generally take one person 3-6 months to reach.

The fact that a new player would find it impossible to just grind whore to 75 in FFXI is probably the greatest threat to the community.
Experienced players would generally reach the cap in 1-2 months.

I am not a fanboy. I bullshi you not, I have more gameplay experience in both games. If your friends play WoW, or if you loved WC3 then give a free server a shot, It's probably the best mmorpg for lan parties. but know that right now FFXI does provide the most complete RPG experience.

Also as if your a new gamer, I wouldn't subscribe to WoW untill we see what WARHAMMER has to offer.

dagr81

well i deleted my post above poster just sumaries what i had to say

gobsied

Remember that article about the asian guy that capped in like a day. To WoW's credibility I remember clearly reading that the asian subscription declined rapidly because they weren't any content updates for a long time but that since the last expansion it was suppose be regaining it's numbers. In any event the whole world is waiting for WARHAMMER. Personally I probably will be dropping WoW completely and just do WAR and FFXI (best of both worlds).

ANYONE who didn't quit ffxi as a newbie has that same opinion. ANYONE who got anywhere in FFXI would agree with you, and that doesn't make them fanboys or WoW haters or fags. The only people who wouldn't agree are the unlucky ones who never subscribed or the one's that slipped through the cracks didn't get any support through the newb levels (levels 1-65) and now are *****ing because they couldn't make it out of Valkrum Dunes, and are pissed that the rest of us get to play a *****ing awesome middle-end game.

Burningthought

Okay this is a QFT; however, don't forget that the devs are recognizing that they need to fix some of the lower level stuff. I'm sure within the next 2 updates they will ease the tension on lower end leveling. Also Exp rings are your friend. Now it doesn't take 2-3 months to get a level, never really did in the first place.

If you can get 1-55, which 1-33 is honestly the easiest, 33-45 is a tad harder and 45-55 is the longest stretch, but once you hit level 55 you will hit 75 within the same amount of time as 1-50, because of the expansion and all the new ways you can boost/get xp. They also nerfed the limit breaks at 50, and 55 since people were having a hard time with the drop rate and finding people to help out with it.

Grinding is one of the best parts about XI as long as you don't get a shotty party. Once you find that awesome one where everything is coordinated and no one is stressing out trying to play their role correctly it can be a blast.

However, both games are/can be fun if you want them to be. There's no since in arguing that ones better then the other. This is kinda like electing a President. Find the one that most appeals to you and play it.

leathel

well i started again yesterday and i wont say its under populated at all since i saw many linkshells (guilds) roaming around Bastok in fairly large groups plus search in noob areas brings up alot of players so even though the maps huge u still know they are there and u can party with em honestly id say start on slyph server since a few onrpg members play there and once ur in range to party with em im sure they would be glad to help ya out and yes the reqs are low so dont worry if ur system only meets min reqs for gameplay it will still play smoothly

so if ur thinking that u wanna try the game but havent done it go grab a copy and give the free trial a go

Burningthought

It's probably Dynamis-Bastok <.< large group eh.. endgame activity.

Shiftfallout

There is something you are overlooking however... All, and i mean all numbers come from blizzard. There is no way anyone else can know Blizzards own active subscriber number. Thats like me telling you how much change you have in your pocket, i can only guess but only you would know the exact amount.

For this reason, you are passing up Blizzards press release of over 9 million in favor of other websites that would not know the exact number because they are not the ones who own the servers, the services or the game.

Does that make any sense?

In early march they had around 8.5 mill... July they passed the 9 mill. Its not that hard to understand really.

My guess is you are getting your figures from either incorrect resources or they are old.

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gobsied

Actually, sense wise his numbers are logical.
The game subscribers peaked in summer after that it dropped off to what ArcDevil describes after summer hype is over.

I wonder how FFXI and WoW will be affected by WARHAMMER, I think WoW will be hit harder.
FFXI's unique design is pretty much the strong hold for core mmos.
The fun casual slot WoW has enjoyed for so long will soon be filled.