Old 12-13-2007, 01:28 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Oh wtf is that with the british soldiers o.O
That's F'ed up. But at least some people now know what is really happeneing, not the lies the news is feeding us.
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Old 12-13-2007, 03:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I kind of agree. It's always good to have people in check. Though I really think, if just this makes you really dislike the troops, then you're in the wrong. These people are over there for 6 months and most likely more, I'm sure in the same position you'd probably try to find some new form of entertainment. Hell, most of those are extremely benign, scratch that British one. What was up with that? Really didn't like the way the guy was laughing.
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Old 12-13-2007, 04:29 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I kind of agree. It's always good to have people in check. Though I really think, if just this makes you really dislike the troops, then you're in the wrong. These people are over there for 6 months and most likely more, I'm sure in the same position you'd probably try to find some new form of entertainment. Hell, most of those are extremely benign, scratch that British one. What was up with that? Really didn't like the way the guy was laughing.
If I recall correctly that "outbreak" happened due to the fact, that the british troops have been under constant distress at all times for month, because of the not so friendly civilians.
You see it all coming together:
Incompetent public relations and inteligence in the area, understaffed personal, no real strategy, but caotic ineffective deployment of local resources. The counteracting of those troops where provoked not by the civilians, as they might have thought. It has been provoked by the inability of the whole army, from the lowest soldier to the responsible generals, to achieve those goals they where aiming for.
To those soldiers, the preassure to change the situation got so big, that they just had to do something about it. They choose to beat up youth and kids as an example.

How should a soldier withstand this preassure for month? You can expect that from a college graduate but not a common man, a person of probably not much more than 20 years of age.

That the whole strategy was never fit to support active deployment of the troops for many month ongoing. That the troops are demotivated and that they are used in an inefective way, just is showing us how things will never work:

Modern technology will probably help to disarm underground insurgents and splinter cells, but it alone cant do the job; The men that carry the equipment do it.
Ending a war isnt cheap, making peace in a country in unrest wont be done by a handful. If you compare the number of troops stationed in the liberated areas after WWII in the zones of ocupation, you migh understand, why peace was earnestly developed that time. The situation in Iraq is shameful at best.

When will the US finally recognise that they are not paying for peace, but for tanks and planes and guns, for the planes and tanks and guns and mainly the circulating moneys sake?
God bless the cents saved on each galon of fule in your cars, thats what America and its "dream" are all about lately. It is totaly about every 2nd voters fault and 100% their responsibility.

(If you wonder why I argue against the US people and not the British? Most British people I know never suported that war in any way like Americans did. None of them ever came up with this "support the troops" anti wehrkraftzersetzungs-like slogans...
This war (and all connected) is the most outrageous and intimidating event in our worlds late history and somehow I cant withstand from keeping comenting it.)
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Old 12-13-2007, 04:53 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I wouldnt blame it on the soldiers who most likely dont know better...

Lack of discipline is always a lack of command;
You simply expect soldiers to act that way, if you dont properly enforce disciplin.
However, that would actualy cost effort and money in staff and training.
The money all the US taxpayers hand out for this war however is used diffrently...
No wonder it isnt over yet; giving money to whoknows for whatever reason has always helped putting humanity, freedom and peace on a little delay.
Alan Shore ftw.
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Old 12-13-2007, 04:59 AM   #15 (permalink)
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What I love is how the US gets absolutely noooo credit for anything good they actually do for the world. Rather they are constantly bashed. Then if we went isolationist like I SO ****ING WISH we would, people would take it the wrong way and find us to be even more selfish or something.
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