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Determination

Well.....alright Wolf, if you say so ^_^.

I actually just started playing again because I was completing my 1st semester of college. It's soooo different from highschool....in a good way! The breaks are longer too. Don't go back till Jan the 27th.

Is FlameCrusade still up? Add me!

The reason why I wrote the blog was because I remember advertisements popping up when I exited the game which wasn't bad but, the stores just shoked me when I came back. Aaaanyway, I should be on for a lil bit on and off.

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You don't get it, do you? How ELSE are they supposed to make money without advertising? Let's say they removed all advertisements from the game and the website. People would be going "What's NX?" or "What's Cash Shop?". If you got what you wanted, the whole community of GMS would be completely oblivious to Cash Shop or anything. And the thing is, Nexon is a COMPANY that spends money to make money. It costs money to run the servers and everything, and Cash Shop is the only way they can get it other than iTCG. How do they get people to buy from the Cash Shop? Advertisement. If you got what you wanted, MapleStory would be DEAD.

You don't even have to take Eco to know what I'm talking about, it's common sense.

Thalamast

one thing i must say is that building was part of the thankgiving quest where u give *alowance* that u received from the "Mom and Dad Quest"

that is how u received maple points on thanksgiving

Piggy-Bank

You're taking this way too seriously. The world is run by advertisements. Almost everything you'll see on the internet is run by advertisements. Without advertisements, you're not going to see a whole lot on the content produced. I enjoy podcasts. I really do, and do you know how all those people get the bandwidth for the show? Adversitising. You're a blogger yourself, so you should understand this next thing. Do you know how many people can make a living off blogging? Advertisements. Do you know how the radio, magazine, and newspaper industries would do without advertisements?

Stop taking this too seriously. Advertisements are everywhere, and to be honest, they don't affect me at all. Besides, I use NoScript and Adblock so I hardly see anything. I honestly don't care if I see McDonalds in Maple Story. I don't care if they have Best Buy and Target stores. It just seems more realistic. Advertisements in Video games are a great way of earning money for the company. Cyraan already gave you a mathematical schematic on how it works so I won't repeat what he typed. Advertising really gives Nexon more money, and I personally want Nexon to have as much as they can get. With more money, they'll be able to hire more workers, and with more workers, they'll lead to faster patches, and more updates. If you had to look at Best Buy ads while killing snails, but get promised 4th job next week, I really don't think you'd be complaining about these ads.

You're seriously blowing this out of proportion. Just because you see a Best Buy in Maple Story doesn't mean you have to go out and buy from Best Buy's. Not everyone listens to advertisements. If you saw an ad that wanted you to jump off a bridge, I doubt you're going to do it. People aren't stupid. They know when to draw the line. ThunderaWolf already mentioned this, but I'll say it again. These advertisements aren't really going to make kids disobey parents. If a kid wanted to get Target, they'd need their parents consent before going. You make it sound like every kid is an idiot. You make it sound like just because they say a Target in game, they'd have to go to Target to buy something.

If you really hate the advertisements, ignore them.

You have yet to give me good reasons why advertising is bad. If you think you already have the reasons, please give me a list, and I'll try to disprove them.

Determination

lol I think I'm giving mixed signals here...

You make it seem like I'm trying to bar every adverstisment imaginable but, I'm not. That's not what my blog was about and that's not the message I'm sending.

In fact I agree with almost everything you said in your posts from why advertisment is needed in order to gain money. Without advertisment, companies wouldn't make alot of money. That's where our agreements end.

I don't know how I can convey this point any clearer. I agree that ads are needed but there is a limit.


"You have yet to give me good reasons why advertising is bad. If you think you already have the reasons, please give me a list, and I'll try to disprove them."- Piggy Bank


Beer commercials glorify their product. It shows that if you have a beer in your hand then girls will flock to you and you'll be the life of the party.

"There were 16,885 alcohol-related fatalities in 2005 – 39 percent of the total traffic fatalities for the year."
"The 16,885 fatalities in alcohol-related crashes during 2005 represent an average
of one alcohol-related fatality every 31 minutes"(information taken from this website)

http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-dr...tatistics.html

and this doesn't even count alcohol poisoning. Does this mean that people are stupid? No. But, now you notice on the commercials that if you read at the small text at the bottom it will say "Please drink responsibly"

Smoking commercials does almost the same. Truth.com is trying to counter it.

Maplestory is addicting. Any addictive substance will have different adverse affects, mentally, physically and with any relationships you may have, including relationships with your family members.

And YES there has been cases of people stealing from their loved ones for NX. We've seen it posted on this board a few times. And even if the parents did want to protect the kids they couldn't. Why? Because now when you double-click that Maplestory icon you're greeted with another ad jampacked with more ads!!! (As if it wasn't bad enough that you had to wait for the ad screen to load up everytime you hit "quit game")

Without the proper guidance one can believe that they absolutley need the product that is being glorified. And hypothetically speaking if you didn't want the crap that is being sold it would be really difficult nearly impossible to avoid it. Ads everywhere. Calling your house ON A SUNDAY AFTER 8. Who the heck wants that?

And YES there has been cases where the Government had to step in and protect people from different things. Why do you think that people aren't allowed to smoke in certain areas?

You're a paying customer. If something bothers you then you have the right to speak your mind and do something about it. You don't have to lay down and take it. It's business its all business. People put 20$, 30$ or even 50$ a week into this game. They should have a say. Maplestory is a business. They made it free so they could lure you in and then show you the good sh**!! That's what businesses do.This game probably makes more than WoW. Without a monthly fee attached Maplestory gets at least 3X the amount of users WoW. MapleStory is a business and will do w/e heck it wants to do unless you do something about it.

Some people on this board puts more money into this game than me if, anything they should be mad! If you're tired of being fed ads and being taken out of the immersivness of your world then you should say something about it! It's your world. People complained about the GMs not doing a good job now, I don't see any hackers. That was a people's move. They were tired of it.



And I really was going to let this go. I really was. I was going to let it sink to the bottom buuuut, since this is getting intellectual I think it's really good for the board and to stimulate our minds (me included ^_^) I don't take it quite serious although I should.

Question everything. Question the whole world around you. That is what will make it better.

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xChrome

Do I make my point yet?

That's exactly what they have to do to stay alive.

Piggy-Bank

I have no idea why you brought up alcohol and smoking into this. Those are completely different from Maple Story because those two products have been proven to be harmful. If you think Maple Story is 'harmful' then every single game that is out there is harmful. Even Pong.

Regardless of that, I'll still tell you what I think about advertisement of Alcohol and Cigarettes. Those advertisements are different from Maple Story advertisements. People already know that alcohol leads to problems, and many also know that they shouldn't drive while drunk. While I personally don't think it's right, alcohol is completely legal. If it's legal, then I don't see why advertising it is bad. Besides, due to the Zero Tolerance Law, only those over 21 can drink alcohol. So what if the Beer Businesses think that beautiful women will help them sell their products? They are using the same tactics as everyone else. If you look at a store ad, a large percent of the time the people in the advertisements are with 'cute' guys/girls. Plus, there are also advertisements that say alcohol is bad.

As with smoking, I can't remember a single advertisement that said smoking is cool. Jog my memory with an example. That'll be appreciated greatly.

Alright. Maple Story is addicting. What's your point?

Are you saying that the Maple Story start screen is an advertisement for NX? I think you're confused, because this is the same screen that has the update information and the screen with the top players. Just because it has a list of the new NX Items doesn't make it an advertisement. If you consider the start screen to be an ad, then you must consider BannedStory and Onrpg to be ads also. BannedStory has a whole list of NX items, and many of the people on this forum have signatures that show their character who have been 'pimped' out. I might have read that wrong, but it seems like you're saying that the Start Screen has more ads. Explaining would be nice.


I think I'm a great example for this. I've been playing this game for years, and I've never gotten NX cash. Not once. Yet I still enjoy the game. I can still have fun playing the game. I'm having fun even though I don't have NX. You're totally blowing this out of proportions. Maple Story isn't spamming you with all these ads. So what if there is a Best Buy in one map. That isn't exacting 'Calling your house on a Sunday' now is it?

I'll agree that the people 'control' the game in some sense, but I still think you're making too big of a deal with this. No one is bothered about these ads. Except you. It seems that everyone else doesn't really care if they see a few advertisments in Maple Story because they are already all over the place. As long as these advertisements don't ruin my gameplay, I don't care if Nexon starts posting advertisements for Viagra in Henesys.

You don't know that for sure. You don't know that it was the people who annoyed Wizit/Nexon into getting GameGuard to update. You don't know that. The main problem with what you just said is that most people don't really care about these advertisements. Neither should you.

I'm tired, and my responses aren't as good as they could be. I'll see if I can add on later on. Ask if you need clarification about a matter.

Azn_King

I really wish I understood what you were talking about.. Maybe I have to re-read. But unlike others I wont rant.


What i think your saying is, Advertisement is needed, But theres a bit to much? If so, I somewhat agree. For one, that dam logon, Not only does it advertise but its annoying. Besides that, ads inside the train from kerning city to NLC , and those little stores dont bother me.

Also... If you think thats bad. JMS has advertisements on those TV's in each city and what not, advertising their gum and the things available... So watch out for ITCG Card Advertisements in game rofl.

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Determination

Omg.... a guy that comes in out of nowhere has only one post in this topic, finally gets me! Thank you AznKing!

You hit the nail on the head.

I'll be back with a reply Piggy-Bank. I need to rest.

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